Bush, "I wish I was a better speaker"

pwnd

I just read The Partly Cloudy Patriot by Sarah Vowell.
One section was devoted to the concept of
Al Gore = Nerd
George Bush = Jock

She puts it much better than I could, but her gist was that Americans don't like a smarty-pants. It is a high school thing. We need to drag down the people that are above us or that we perceive to be above us. The American Media doesn't like the eloquent statesman. It makes them feel dumb. George Bush was everybody's frat buddy and it was an easier story to report in 2000. Gore made them actually have to do research and explain things.
Hopefully they have seen the error of their ways. Maybe a "C" student isn't the best person to have running the country.

cp33,

Definitely a good comparison. And it explains why it was so often said that people could see themselves "going for a beer" with George.

The Nerd/Jock things reminds me of a great essay by Paul Graham: Why Nerds are Unpopular

...so often said that people could see themselves "going for a beer" with George.

Does Bush have any "beer-drinkin' buddies"? I doubt it. I'll bet that anyone who ever sat down with Bush to have a beer felt awkward. A disinterested, inarticulate ne'er-do-well. As boring as having a beer with any of many such louts draped over our bars. Any accomplished person who meets with him for more than a photo-op is probably appalled that such an empty suit is "the most powerful man in the world".

Al Gore = Nerd

May I ask, since when Al Gore is a "Nerd"?

Where is his degree from the Divinity School?

Talk to Sarah Vowell. She meant it in the expert on something (or many things in this case). She said she considered herself a "Nerd" too, for what that's worth.

The idea of redemption is a very appealing one to a great number of people be they Christian or not. His transition from wild unscrupulous frat boy to president is a perfect example of a redemption story. The Democrats were unwittingly instrumental in crafting this perception. The reason this worked probably has much to do with people wanting to see themselves in the president; and think they have a second chance in their own lives.

There's more to it than that, but I think this is the greatest reason he was successful. I feel a bit of pity for these folks bc I'm afraid this presidency was more of another example of the nonredeemable.

He has no heart and like all politicians, he says what people want to hear and hopes that that will "hold the little bastards".

He may be a poor communicator, and he may even struggle at times with competence in his administration, but this comment is way out of line:

He has no heart and like all politicians, he says what people want to hear and hopes that that will "hold the little bastards".

1) "He has no heart" - you have no basis to know his heart and many of his political enemies even concede that he means well.
2) "He says what people want to hear" - if that were true, his approval rating wouldn't be in the 20s. He regularly says things that he knows will be unpopular.

Hotshot, your note was a cheap shot, in my opinion. I could be wrong, since I don't know your heart, either. What do you think about that?

1) "He has no heart" - you have no basis to know his heart and many of his political enemies even concede that he means well.

You contradicted yourself. We dont know his heart so how do we know he means well. He probably does, but his actions speak for themselves and thats what we should focus on.

"He says what people want to hear" - if that were true, his approval rating wouldn't be in the 20s. He regularly says things that he knows will be unpopular.

Hardly. If this is so why doesnt he just admit that his immigration plan could be characterized as amnesty even if he does not believe that it is the best characterization instead of playing these semantic games. The reason his popularity is low is not because of what he says but more because of what he has done. Although lying to and misleading the American people has certainly hurt his image as well.

Catch, I see no contradiction in saying that even his enemies acknowledged that he means well.

Regarding judging him on what he has done, most people have no clue as to what he has done or what the context is. They are more bent on vilifying him.

Regarding judging him on what he has done, most people have no clue as to what he has done or what the context is. They are more bent on vilifying him.

I agree. Frankly, I think it stopped being about what Bush says or does back in November of 2000, when the election was in doubt, and the nation became so bitterly divided. There was a *brief* season of unity after 9/11, but for many years, the Left has been in attack mode. The one exception has been when Bush sold his soul on the amnesty bill.

There was a *brief* season of unity after 9/11, but for many years, the Left has been in attack mode.

Your revisionist history is amusing. This administration is constantly in political attack mode. It is the Bush administration that decided to use 9/11 as a political tool from the very beginning to attack Democrats. It was Bush who decided to have a vote before the election and to politicize them. It was Bush who after he got everything he asked for from Congress, realized he needed something to attack them on, flip flopped on Homeland Security but made it contingent on an uprecidented stripping of civil service protections against politicalization and expanding his political turf and attacked Democrats for not immediately caving. It was Karl Rove who championed trying to use 9/11 as a politcal issue in campaigns. It was Bush who after vowing not to politicize homeland security, who turned around and did exactly that in the 2002 campaign while going aroung the country in an unprecedinted tour on the taxpayer dime to poliltical events where he politicized 9/11 and called for more Republicans in congress despite the fact he had gotten everything he has asked for. It was people like Karl Rove who slurred all liberals in the country with malicious statements claiming they want therapy for terrorists. It was people like Bush who claimed Democrats valued politics over homeland security based upon deception and misleading claims.

I can document all of these claims. Can you?

The one exception has been when Bush sold his soul on the amnesty bill.

That is one of the very few issues that Bush has been consistent on since the beginning of his term. Ironic that you claim he sold his soul.

Catch22,

Oh, please.

Remember that it took longer than 5 years to prepare 9/11/01, in our friend backyard, Germany.

Remember that WJC - not the President at that moment to visit ground Zero before the President. Therefore, who was looking for a perfect photo? Also, what was done when our soil was attacked overseas?

There was not doubt about the attacked against Dr. Rice due to a single Memo. What happened if the whole country was paralized for a Memo?

The Dems are not making easy for the next President and then....the omelet will be cooked to your own taste.

determined0a1,

You are not making any sense. You appear to string together a bunch of irrelevant claims. What photo and why does it matter? What memo? Perhaps you should try speaking plainly instead of vague statements about omelets.

Just making a comment about remembering when WJC visited Ground Zero before the President.

Just making a comment about the important Memo that the Dems hammered Dr. Rice with the Memo on August 2001 that UbL was going to attack America. One Memo and voila, shut down the whole country.

I'd have to disagree with this sentiment. The President is ambassador of the American people to the world. Is this seriously how you would like to be represented to people around the globe? I never felt that anytime Clinton was speaking that he speaking over his audience. He didn't use old english, he used plain language. The lack of the current president's speaking skills just makes me wince.

BigFatD,

actually disagree with this. It was his ability to be so plain-spoken - folksy - that made him, and still makes him, attractive to many of the last 26%. Remember: they can sit down and have a beer with this guy, unlike Kerry.

I disagree. Both Reagan and Clinton had what you describe as "folksy" appeal. Bush's ratings have steadily declined since Katrina. My personal opinion is that he has promoted individuals based on nepotism, with a disregard to whether these individuals are competent to hold the offices to which they've been appointed.

I think Americans perceive him as an out of touch, mischievous - if not out right lying - politician. I'm curious to know the demographics of his 26% in popularity polls.

His inability as a communicator highlights the incompetency of his administration.

Many outside the US have thought him to be a joke from the beginning, which is something I have learned from my international dealings

Oh, please. Seems that you did not live overseas when WJC was President.

His inability as a communicator highlights the incompetency of his administration

Wow, at least GWB responded when we were attacked and was not blinded with the "friendship" of the Germans that could not share with us what was cooking in Hamburg.

You may dislike GWB, his personality, his policies, his whole person but he has more political background than the previous peansuts President and Clinton.

But well, I am prepared for Madam President Clinton, I am going to have 2 x 1, one salary and two as a team.

Isn't that precious?

Just in

The President is ambassador of the American people to the world. Is this seriously how you would like to be represented to people around the globe?

I am tenth time more embarrassed by the big mouth of the peanuts President Carter and his despotic friends Castro, Chavez, et al.

Wow, at least GWB responded when we were attacked

How? By gazing vacantly into space, then hopping into Air Force One for hours (when it was a target), then showing up with a bullhorn a day after the attacks?

he has more political background than the previous peansuts President and Clinton.

Uh, no. Clinton was governor, same as Bush. But unlike Bush, Clinton came from a poor family and had to work for everything he got, he didn't get by because of who his daddy is.

Oh, please. Seems that you did not live overseas when WJC was President.

During Clinton's admin, we were respected around the world, as was he by world leaders. Other countries aren't as repressed about sex as this country. Heck, Italy had a porn star running for office!

determined @ 5.3

Right you are about Clinton being an embarrassment.

Oh, please. Seems that you did not live overseas when WJC was President.

Nor do I live overseas now. But what I can do is point you to a poll showing that America's standing in the world has plummeted since the bush took over.

Also, I have been swayed. It *is* important for bush to speak like an intelligent human being. I have to agree that it's important for the face of America to at least seem like a reasonable, thoughtful person. But, from the beginning, he has looked like an oaf in over his head, and people from around the globe also picked up on it immediately. For many of us in Texas, we pretty much knew the entire time.

I don't give a half peanut about what others think about America.

My wine even when is bitter.

The Europeans brewed their own rotten quality where the unemployment and discontent it's obvious. My friends in Germany are irked about their economy.

I don't give a half peanut about what others think about America.

How can someone so un-American turn into something so American so damn quickly?
Scary.

enigma,

Wow!

On 1/2009 the Salvation of the United States of America will take the Oath and with a magic wand all the problems of the nation will disappear because our new President knows how to speak.

Bravo!

I just wish he was a better human being.

I wish that AQ and our enemies are better human beings

I wish that AQ and our enemies are better human beings

The president represents us. Shouldn't we be better than that we rail against?

TJG

I am sure that the next President will face the same fate. Many will be happy and many will be unhappy.

That's life. It's impossible to please everybody.

You will be jumping for Gore and I will be micromanaging his administration.

and a membership in the human race, friend Rapp. This guy thinks he's above it all . . .

Maybe it's less "How Dubbya speaks" an more how he doubletalks, whenever his mouth opens, an there are no flies around..

As in "If his lips are moving, he's lying"?

and a membership in the human race

Not your best moment here, Rebecca.

Dislike of a person's policies, behavior, speaking ability, competence, or philosophy is different than simple, sheer hatred. Don't you think?

I only have two words for you, Tom:

Sacre bleu!

Oops. And two more:

Haricots verts!

If "a membership with Toastmasters" would entail practice, you can forget it. Bush has always felt too entitled and been too lazy to prepare himself for the rigors of an office that was stolen for him in the first place. He feels that whining about "hard work" is all he owes a nation that voted for the other guy.

Bush has never in life worked for anything.

Grades and school admissions? Nope, he's a legacy student.

Jobs? Given to him by daddy and friends of daddy, even when he failed at business after business.

The presidency? Handed to him on a platter.

Has he in his life ever heard the word "no" or not gotten his way?

Has he in his life ever heard the word "no" or not gotten his way?

He sure heard it today, hehehehe.

Bush has never in life worked for anything. Grades and school admissions?

I wish that I could did the same for my 5 kids.

Give me the Chapter and Verse of the previous Presidents and in what they worked and performance category.

Nope, he's a legacy student.

But....he got two degrees.

Jobs?

More than many other politicians.

Given to him by daddy and friends of daddy, even when he failed at business after business.

All daddies do. Nothing wrong with that. Chelsey had a $100K/Yr landed when graduating. Gosh, how many years take to earn the money to a recently graduated

The presidency? Handed to him on a platter.

Nah, GWB did not claim chads/pregnant chads/sunshine chads.

Has he in his life ever heard the word "no" or not gotten his way?

Well, being the kids of Barbara Bush seems not very easy.

But....he got two degrees

Not hard when you are a legacy student, there because of connections. And if you support legacy students, to be consistent you better be pro-affirmative action as that is what legacy admits are, AA for the wealthy.

Bush had many jobs because he failed at them. And every one was gotten through Daddy's connections. I think it is sad when adults can't stand on their own two feet and need to rely on Daddy.

$100/K isn't much in NYC--and yes, Chelsea did benefit from her parentage. Doesn't change my words on Bush, does it?

Bush was handed the state his brother governed and his campaign manager worked as sec. of state in. Just a little hinky.

Oh, dear TJG,

Parenthood never finishes in my culture, I love to spoil my kids. The Kennedys and Gore follow my pattern

Do you make $100K a year because isn't too much in NY as a principiant and inexpert?

Al Gore had Butterworth the Attorney General of Florida as his Manager and the Supreme Court of Florida milked votes after the elections for him. The actions of Gore were a big shame that he wanted the Presidency at any cost, at our cost because he was entittled by his father that groomed him.

How many children do you have?

Rebecca said:

I only have two words for you, Tom:

Sacre bleu!

LOL, you had me scared there for a second as far as the two words. Merci beaucoup!

This guy thinks he's above it all .

Only GWB thinks that he is above it all?

Think that all the politicians think the same. Look at Sandy Berger.

Is Sandy Berger invading countries and ignoring the Constitution?

To compare the two is silly.

I know everyone wants to think of Bush as a drunken dumb frat boy, but he is a smart individual. But, something bad happens sometimes - not always - in between his mind and his mouth.

his mind and his mouth

We have the coordinates of the latter--it's the existance of the former that we cannot confirm

Just wondering, Tom
-no reflection on you.

Lol, nicely said gpnavonod. Tom?

Thank you!

bows----lol

[I borrowed the quote from Tom--[He's misguided- LOL ,but I like his style ]

The scary thing, to me, is, Bush's IQ is estimated to be 125 (based on his SAT scores). That's way above average. Actually, that's pretty damn smart. Scary, isn't it?

Well, I am well below 50 and this is why I am not scared.

At least I have the feeling that when he retires he is not going to become a parrot giving speeches.

Actually, Det, pretty much the only avenue that will be open to Bush is that of the rubber-chicken circuit, giving speeches for money to true believers.

I doubt if he will devote his time to human rights (like Carter and Clinton).

TJG @ 11.6

Since we are all agreed that public speaking isn't Bush's forte, why would suppose he would go on the "rubber chicken" circuit. He's already got his million stashed. He doesn't have to rent himself to Dubai like Clinton to make a buck.

Clinton and Carter devoting their "time to human rights". Is that what they call inapropriate commentary from former Presidents at inconvenient times, now?

TJG

When Carter opens his mouth to later apologize he should be cultivating a green house and be more concerned that he failed as President in many areas. To be human I don't need Carter or Clinton to indicate me the road to Heaven.

Katrina was the showing case of the failure of previous Presidents but Carter and ilk "saw" the opportunity of their lives.

How come now in Texas Mother Nature is treated normal and there are plenty of people in/on the roof.

I am very just, TJG.

Some verrrrry interesting reading on Jimmy Carter:

"Carter: Stop Favoring Fatah Over Hamas"

"The Peanut Farmer Embarasses Himself"

"Dershowitz: Jimmy Carter is a Liar...Again"

For fans of C.S. Lewis, Spinal Tap, or Jake Gyllenhaal, check these:

"Jemmuh al-Katah: The Screwball Letters PART ONE"

"Jemmuh al-Katah: The Screwball Letters PART TWO"

Katrina was the showing case of the failure of previous Presidents but Carter and ilk "saw" the opportunity of their lives.

No, it was Bush's failure. He was eating cake and playing a quitar as people died. If he were a leader, he would have been down there ASAP. He was ASAP on 9/11 and again during Katrina.

To be human I don't need Carter or Clinton to indicate me the road to Heaven.

Bush is the one pushing is Christianity down the nation's throats.

We have the coordinates of the latter--it's the existance of the former that we cannot confirm

LOL, gpnanovod, I give you props for that. On the immigration bill, I was wondering the same thing, and on Katrina as well.

And, by the way, I agree JG, that he was slow on many fronts to deal with Katrina - I live on the Gulf Coast. Of course, he wasn't the only one, but as you say, he is the leader and he should have led on that issue.

I don't think Bush is pushing Christianity on anybody, although I understand why you say that.

Tom,

Sheesh, I read the Evacuation Plan for NO/LA and I have friends living in the area that they lost everything and blame the Governor and the Major.

The bottom line of the Plan was: Take care of yourself.

Re 11.7 ...why would suppose he would go on the "rubber chicken" circuit. He's already got his million stashed.

He will become the "Crawford Recluse", no longer needed as a front man by anyone. A no-go zone for Republicans and few visitors of any sort. His own parents will discourage visits to Kennebunkport. Memoirs? Too laughable to contemplate.

You are laughable.

We will not hear about GWB in a long time after retirement and I appreciate that. I wish that Carter do the same and of course we will hear Madam President over and over again with promises that can't be achieved.

Determined,

You are absolutely correct that much of the blame for NOLA's woes after Katrina lie with Governor Kathleen Blanco and Ray Nagin. I could write a book on those two. The volatile and scattered Nagin actually performed better in some ways than the clueless and vain Blanco.

However, I believe Bush should have been boots on the ground as soon as the winds died down. And, as it turned out, Brownie was not doing a heckuva job. However, Brownie's shirts were very nicely pressed and looked really crisp on camera. Bush should have shown more leadership, fired a lot of FEMA flunkies, shook some things up, and been far more aggressive than he was.

I give Bush a D+, Mayor Nagin gets a D-, Kathleen Blanco gets an F-, FEMA gets an F, the Army Corps of Engineers gets an F-, the Red Cross gets a B+, the National Guard Rescue units get an A++, the New Orleans Police Department gets a F--, and church and charity volunteers from across the USA get an A++.

The State of Mississippi, led by Haley Barbour, and the State of Alabama, led by Bob Riley, both get A+ grades, by the way. The media rarely talks anymore about what Katrina did in those states.

He will become the "Crawford Recluse", no longer needed as a front man by anyone.

There is some truth in that. Bush has never needed the limelight, and he probably hates it by now. I think the ranch will be a welcome respite for him. To keep the media at bay, Bush will put up signs around the property saying: Danger - Cheney is Hunting on this Property

The poorest of the poor in NO were good for voting during elections, filling them with hopes and promises, after they voted (provided buses and assistance) Bye bye, buy your own crayons for the kids, water, take the pets, etc.

Did you mean to say Hunting or Haunting?

Tom,

You are absolutely correct that much of the blame for NOLA's woes after Katrina lie with Governor Kathleen Blanco and Ray Nagin.

And, Bush used the misfortune of those in the Gulf Coast as a photo opportunity in an attempt to boost his presidential legacy.

FYI: If anything: The blame belongs to the Army Corps of Engineers, political negligence, structural inadequacies of the levees and the erosion of the wetlands surrounding the Gulf Coast region.

Healthy, thriving coastal wetlands and estuaries were designed by nature to protect coastal areas, not for building upon casinos and pretty little bungalow beach houses.

The flooding in New Orleans was predicted. That nothing was done about it before a CAT 3, 4 or 5 hurricane hit is the fault of both federal, state and local committees that make decisions regarding how to prevent a breach.

Mind you, Bush did not cause the breach...but imho (as with all politicians who were holding office in Aug/Sept. '05; they all thought NO dodged the bullet, then the levees breached. Mission control we have a problem.) He certainly took opportunity to bolster some sort of image (much in the way he wielded his Bullhorn at Ground Zero). His tough luck that no one bought his sincerity this time. Oh well. That's just too damn bad.

It didn't help his cause to appoint someone to FEMA who had ABSOLUTELY no experience in emergency management. But, Bush and all the other politicians will play victim and blame the other party, committee...whomever...even those too poor to exit the city via their own means.

A report earlier this week on the trailers that were supposed to house homeless citizens of NO, and supplied by the Feds were redirected to an Indian reservation elswhere in the country - unused. So let's blame The Committee. Shall we?

Anyone who'd like some specifics on the levees breaches/failures of New Orleans, Lake Pontchartrain and the industrial man-made canal then read the following report. New Orleans Levees and Flood-walls: Hurricane Damage Protection CRS Report for Congress, September 6, 2005.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RS22238.pdf

Caltha,

I don't disagree with your assessment. How do you think I did on the grading back at 11.15 and 11.16?

I give Bush a D+, Mayor Nagin gets a D-, Kathleen Blanco gets an F-, FEMA gets an F, the Army Corps of Engineers gets an F-, the Red Cross gets a B+, the National Guard Rescue units get an A++, the New Orleans Police Department gets a F--, and church and charity volunteers from across the USA get an A++.

The State of Mississippi, led by Haley Barbour, and the State of Alabama, led by Bob Riley, both get A+ grades, by the way. The media rarely talks anymore about what Katrina did in those states.

The disasters in New Orleans and Mississippi were different in too many ways for fair comparisons. Kudos to Barbour but had he been Governor of Louisiana, New Orleans would be in the same state of ruin and peril as now. The Mississippi coast will be reinvigorated as it is rebuilt and regrows, but New Orleans is doomed. That is the real reason that resources are not being spent there as promised. The mouth of the Mississippi River has dumped so much silt at the present location that it wants to flip back over to an ancient channel for its outlet to the Gulf of Mexico. Corps of Engineer channeling upriver, being undermined by the river, is all that is stopping the inevitable. Sea level is rising. Wetlands encroach.

A seaport will be needed at the new mouth of the river. We should be putting our resources into preparing the site of New New Orleans. Brick by brick, we can move the French Quarter and let the good times roll.

Kermit, do you live in or around New Orleans or the Gulf Coast? Just curious.

Kermit & Tom Bombadil:

I had read that the storm surge that had funneled up through the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet (MR-GO a man-made channel to accommodate industrial shipping) was the exacerbating factor in the levee system failure in New Orleans - coupled with eroding wetlands.

At the time of Katrina, I had doubts that places such as NY or other ports would have evacuated stranded populations any easier than the Gulf Coast local emergency management in similar circumstances.

Two points I think that so infuriated the politicians in LA and NO - Senator Mary Landreu and gentleman from St. Bernards parish whose name I can't recall at the moment - were a) the flooding was predicted and b) the delays to get the levees that could withstand tidal storm surges in place before a massive hurricane hit. That the levees that had been recently upgraded failed at their earthen berm/bases and collapsed beneath the levee walls was like throwing salt on a wound. The best laid plans go to waste sometimes.

It's inexcusable that politicians use situations like this example to further their careers, but...same as it ever was.

Gulf Coast.

Me too, Kermit. I think you and Caltha make some good points, and I can tell you both have good knowledge of the area beyond what the national media is reporting.

I grew up here on the Coast, and I've lived in FL, AL, MS, and TX, and have many relatives in LA, where my Dad, my wife, and other family members are from. Since the mid-1960s, I can remember TV news specials talking about what would happen to New Orleans when "the big one" finally hit. Katrina was that storm in some regards, although I think we all agree it could have been even worse for New Orleans if the storm would have taken a slightly more westward track.

Like most of us around here, I was disgusted by the government's lack of preparedness, despite 40 years worth of prior warnings, and especially the incompetence and corruption that Katrina revealed on all governmental levels. In my "grading," I did single out a few notable exceptions - those who performed well. I have a Coast Guard friend who helped rescue 2,000 people, and he's a hero in my book. I've seen churches and charities do a phenomenal job of unselfishly and generously providing. I've seen neighbors really helping neighbors in a beautiful way, and I've even seen some great racial reconciliation happen in my city as a result of the storm's aftermath.

I think the Army Corps of Engineers and all those charged with levee maintenance and preparedness deserve some very harsh criticism. But, unlike Spike Lee, I do not believe the levee problems were racially or politically motivated.

Bush and Blair have "served together" by sending other people's children to die while insulating themselves from the uncomfortable knowledge of it.

Excellent point, trex! (I don't see the Bush twins lining up to enlist, either.)

Heh heh...doesn't Bush still owe us time on his service?

No time like the present!

Funny thing about that, JG. He doesn't seem too keen about putting his own life on the line.

Remember the Thanksgiving when he showed up in Baghdad at 4 AM, all lights out on AirForce One as it cruised down the runway and came to a stop?

Dubya then woke the GIs up at 5 AM for a Thanksgiving breakfast and a photo op with a plastic turkey . . .(not W, btw)

You, too, can own a memory of that Thanksgiving!

I own the talking Bush doll...it lives on my shelf next to the Warhol doll :)

Though he'd probably prefer the company of the talking Anne Coulter doll.

Hee heeeeeeeee. I like this line from the Bush ad:

His appearance before the troops boosted the morale of many of our soldiers.

Actually, I think most of them were p.o.'ed that they had to get at 5 in the morning on Thanksgiving to eat turkey with a turkey and for a lousy photo op.

I like the tagline on the doll boxes "America's REAL HEROES". A talking Ann Coulter doll? I wish she'd just shut up. ;-/

(I wonder if the Bush doll has a Ken bump. Oh, JG, you probably KNOW.)

I've never been able to tell if that site is in jest or not.

It seems pretty equal opportunity and my talking Bush has some of his embarrassing quotes: "putting food on your family." But my favorite is: "I come from Texas!" said in a very stern voice.

Yes, the Bush doll is anatomically correct--for him (aka, just a bump!)

and the white shirt is sleeveless under the jacket. Mine had Hershey kiss boobs during the '04 elections :P

I suppose that's one fact he can't screw up. Does he talk in Bush's voice?

I wonder if Andy Warhol gets depressed sitting next to Dubya all day. Maybe you should find Andy a Lou Reed or Basquiat doll to relieve the sheer boredom of having Bush as his only companion.

heh.

Mine had Hershey kiss boobs during the '04 elections :P

My, you're creative! Oh, the sleeveless shirt. That's good.

And when you sit him down, his pants slide down his bottom making for a very risque view, right?

I always felt sorry for Ken because of that -- and his sorry excuse for genitalia. Poor guy.

I can hear Barbie now:"To h*ll with this sh*t, K. I'm going to find myself a man with balls!"

He does have Bush's voice--it's a recording of him. The cats hate hate hate it :)

The two of them have a vintage Strawberry Shortcake doll (people say I look like her, LOL) to break up any fights.

There's a store in the Castro selling Ken-type dolls who are very very anatomically correct. One of these days, I need to add one to my collection :)

Is this the one you have? What an expression! I like the magnified American flag and the arrow indicating his lapel . . .

http://www.toypresidents.com/index2.asp

Heh...no, mine's on the site I posted, with his button in the back. :)

Here's one to add to your collection:

http://www.prankplace.com/fbush.htm

It must be good, my company's firewall is blocking the site :)

Oops.

Well, Tex.

GWB got Honorable discharge unlike Kerry.

Det,

GWB didn't finish his service. Kerry was wounded in action. Kerry actually served, Bush again used daddy's connections to take the easy route. Nothing honorable about that.

"I think that the vice president is a person reflecting a half-glass-full mentality."

Hah. I never heard that one.

Don't forget his line about gynecologists across the country practicing their love for women . . .

This is good, too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=342WwiGmY8U

My favorite Bush quote:

"Tribal sovereignty means that; it's sovereign. I mean, you're a — you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And therefore the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities."

Enjoy!

I just found this one, which tops all, IMO:

"I couldn't imagine somebody like Osama bin Laden understanding the joy of Hanukkah." —at a White House menorah lighting ceremony, Washington, D.C., Dec. 10, 2001

xfs

GWB was right.

Some of our Public Schools aren't graduating kids and they are voters.

GWB got his education through daddy. Money talks. If he had to earn his way, he'd be homeless.

Indeed, TJG, money talks.

Kennedy cheated in his Spanish test and Kerry studied in Switzerland where his parents were called because he was a troublemaker.

We need David Palmer for president

.

Who is David Palmer?

Palmer is the President on 24. I'm just glad he didn't say Martin Sheen, LOL.

Tom

Thanks, now I remember.

Jack Bauer, for President

Jack Bauer, for President

Yeah, now you're talking!

TSC

The President can afford below freezing point because he is not running anymore.

im looking forward to his replacement, regardless of party

I am looking forward by the best deal of 2 x 1 of the Clintons, cheaper by dozen if possible.

for all the amusement w provides with his less than 100 IQ

It is reported to be much higher than that Tshreck, see #11 above.

i've read various numbers regarding the IQ of the shrub, but the proof is in the pudding.

the man is a mental midget.

what pr firm do you work for tom?

what pr firm do you work for tom?

Ah, you flatter me. I'm just a plain old news junkie with quick fingers, LOL.

Kat,

Reading is one thing and watching GWB is other.

Anyway, to me it was my super favorite liberal T. Blair who convinced GWB about Iraq. The British had a lot do with Iraq.

For Tony Blair WJC was not the type to talk seriously.

Grrrr, nice post, a$$hole. Way to respond in thread!

#22 is directed at det's #5.8. My deepest apologies for the stupidity.