Hi-Ho, the Derry-O - Michelle's little "shopping" trip.

re: #2 - Evil 1 - Indeed! Good observation! They are our American King and Queen, aren't they? Nah... Remember, folks, it is your tax dollars that pay for all of it. Is it money well spent? Does it keep our country safe?

Great "eye" for what was most probably really going on. I thought the same thing. The episode also brought to mind Princess Diana. I was/am still a big fan of Diana, but so many Americans hated that she was on every magazine cover. Of course she was rerelentlessly pursued by the paparazzi ... Michelle will never attain that level of frenzy feeding no matter what she's shopping for.

Evil 1 - #2

That's just an utterly stupid statement. She could be in the news everyday if she wanted to for a photo-op! All she would have to do is say the word and the press would follow her and the girls walking the dog, going to Betty's Boutique or simply reading a book sitting under a tree on the lawn.

MoonCrow - 2.2 I loved me some Princess Di! Just something about the woman. I don't know how on earth you would bring her up when talking about Michelle unless of course you are jealous of the fact she may in fact become (or already is) as famous as Di. (Wasn't it Jackie O comparisons a while back?). And to say Michelle will never attain the feeding frenzy from the papparazzi...........

If you think Michelle (or any famous person) would want that, is absolutely ludicrous. As if to say the papparazzi chasing you at every possible moment is something to strive towards or maybe to 'prove' you are the most popular woman in the world. Give it a rest. Assinine.

And how, pray tell, did you ascertain that Americans hated her on all the magazine covers? That is an obvious untruth or they (the magazines) wouldn't have kept plastering her on the front of all of them if they weren't selling, now would they?! I know I snatched up my special edition glossy covers.

You are ridiculous. He is running things while George Bush was on the golf course. you people are so short sighted. I hate the fact that soilderes even died for you people, you all deserve to be in bondage and slaves to the Chinese. It is coming soon enough.

Heyford:

Evil 1 - #2

That's just an utterly stupid statement. She could be in the news everyday if she wanted to for a photo-op! All she would have to do is say the word and the press would follow her and the girls walking the dog, going to Betty's Boutique or simply reading a book sitting under a tree on the lawn.

If you truly believe your statement and cannot correlate it to my post then I suggest you get a mirror and take a long hard look into it so you can see where the real stupidity lies.

No need to look, he can just see himself in the Fox reflection on TV. His kids and friends see foolisness everyday.

A talk about healthy food.....hmmmm.... Michelles bod is not a model plate by far, neither is Mr. Boney Obamas, not the two to take tips from. They make a mockery of everything they do. Always wanting attention and always making an ass out of themselves.

Always wanting attention and always making an ass out of themselves.

You noticed that to ?! I'm glad I wasn't the only one who also thought that about them !

What in the hell are you talking about? You know it is possible to take too much NyQuil. I'm just sayin'..............

R.D.Snyder : Then what the hell is your excuse ?!

They managed to put 'Ho' and Michelle Obama in the same title...yea, I caught that....classy.

netprophet: You're reaching pretty low with that post ! Everyone should know by now you're assuming nonsense !

Not reaching as low as the ass who wrote the article. Hi! Ho.

It has nothing to do with them moving forward. Its failed Democrat tactics 101 and 102. It doesn't matter what we do, we're Democrats...we are above the laws of man. Then 102 which states 2 + 1 = 4 or more precisely wrong + wrong = right. As long as its the Democrat who is wrong that is.

Laura Bush was treated as Laura.

Rank on Rank

not "Michelle"

True, I would not like to call her by her first name - I usually address only people I like (or people who are clearly benefiting our country) by their first names. Many people who like her (the left-leaning MSM networks, the anti-American terrorists, corrupt ACORN organizers, etc) do call her by her forename.

determined0a1

Laura Bush was treated as Laura

That's because Laura was a nice lady, who clearly cared about America and its citizens.

That's more than than I can say about the America-hating ugly-hearted hag, currently married to obama, who seems to care far more about spending as much of our money as possible & about photo ops than about helping America.

Corie, Laura Bush is a nice lady, as you say though I doubt she would say the same of you.

That's more than than I can say about the America-hating ugly-hearted hag, currently married to obama,

though I doubt she would say the same of you

Neither would the friends of obama - the anti-America terrorists, Chicago criminals, and other slimeballs that have long considered obama & his wife as 'one of their own'...

Actually, wmolaw, the first ladies were usually referred to by their first and last names as Laura Bush, Nancy Reagan... If you said Nancy no one would know who you were talking about. If I said George would you think George Bush when I am referring to George Clooney? President and First Lady, President and Mrs., First Couple Barak and Michelle Obama. Women no longer need to be referred to as Mrs. as a stand alone title.

Yeah its not like anybody in a political forum that heard the name Hillary would actually think for a minute that people were speaking of anyone other than Hillary Duff perhaps?

Possible...not likely but possible. Depends on the age of the thinker. :-)

He is the point. She has a staff that are costing us millions a year. Send them out for produce. Do you realize how much it costs the taxpayer for the first family to go out in public?

Hell she is going to McDonald's, Broadway, and the Farmers market.

MARK---why HAVE staff do this WHEN you can GET a PHOTO OP and SPEND OUR money!!

RE-DISTRIBUTE the WEALTH!!! LMAO!wonder if they planted any HEMP!!

jscusmc69 LT U.S.C.D.F

Oh yeah forgot his campaign pledge to spread the wealth around. Thanks for the reminder jscusms .... How stuid of me.

I'd like to make an intelligent comment, but my mouth is hanging open.

I'll make one then.

Ya'll need to GET A LIFE! SO WHAT the first lady took a photo op to promote shopping local...aka at a farmers market......SO WHAT she was guarded by the secret service...ITS THERE JOB! Seriously,...do you people have nothing better to do then make stupid snarky comments about the first Lady being TOO ARISTOCRATIC...or the President being a fascist, communist, socialist, Muslim who conspired before his birth to change his birth certificate...knowing he would run for president....seriously??? Stay on World Nut Daily and let us have newsvine back to have honest debates about real (NON FOX GENERATED) news.

Ok, I conceded they all need PR. But, really are we to believe that the First Lady buys the white house produce. They what a two floors in one of the wings dedicated to food prep in the white house.

If you are going to spend our tax money on PR then at least make it a good one.

Here is one advise.

Our First Lady Michelle Obama was a success lawyer with about $300,000/yr salary.

Then, Our First Lady Michelle Obama belongs to the battered women and not shopping for food by the ounce.

Hilary Clinton could probably tell you a bit about being attacked as first lady, and I'm sure Nancy Reagan could.

Nancy Reagan has been verbally assaulted , just ask Too $hort.

Hilary Clinton could probably tell you a bit about being attacked

Hillary Clinton was in fact attacked by this same ridiculous author (Dana Milbank) last month and he was forced to apologize...

Milbank said he couldn't reveal to whom President Barack Obama would serve a drink called "Mad B---- Beer." That line was followed by a brief picture of Clinton.

Washington Post Slammed for 'Tasteless, Sexist' Clinton Joke

Hillary who?

Hillary Clinton has been plenty visable but the attention has been on ACORN, 9-12, Michelle's speech about healthy eating and support of local farmers, all that really important stuff.

Here is a quick Live search, all stories within the last hour:

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/09/22/2009092200271.html

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-09-22-voa9.cfm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090922/wl_asia_afp/usafghanistannatounrestmilitary

Newsvine search last 3 days:

http://chinasecurityblog.newsvine.com/_news/2009/09/22/3300412-hillary-clinton-tactfully-pushes-mcchrystal-back

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2009/09/20/3292107-japan-may-provide-more-aid-to-afghanistan

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2009/09/20/3292471-obama-cuban-mega-concert-doesnt-hurt-us-outreach

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2009/09/21/3298782-us-looks-to-china-for-nkorea-progress

Certainly no indepth search but for less than 3 minutes seems she is doing something. I don't follow her around so can't give you a play by play on her activities.

I'm absolutely sure that Hillary has done quite a bit lately...just as with her White House years...not a lot she would like to see made public.

We are talking politics right? So it is Hillary Clinton rather than Hillary Duff when we say Hillary right? Or is it Hillary Swank? These things are so confusing!

wmolaw

This place is weird.

HUGE understatement, but I have noticed that the Obama supporter base here as well as in the polls seems to be declining as well. So there is hope and change in that understatement as well lol.

No, we're still here. We've just gotten tired of having conversations with dining room tables.

Oh I wasn't speaking of you. I was speaking of the ones that actually realized the Titanic was sinking and had common sense enough to actually get off the boat.

Those were the rats. We didn't want them. They're the ones that chewed the holes in the boat but she ain't sinking. taao, your phone is ringing. I think it's Sarah.

Sarah Conner.

I actually would prefer Sarah Conner over Obama, unlike him she actually seems real. Plus I'd love to meet Summer Glau she's hot!

You'd better be glad you were not in the traffic jam as I'd bet you wouldn't like it once you found out why there was a traffic jam in the first place.

Let's face it, if you want to be the First Family, you change daily habits. You don't continue to live your life like you once did. It's part of the territory. You have to respect others by not closing down streets, causing traffic jams and spending tax dollars that cost thousands for that veggie trip. How about some common sense. Does she text and drive a car too?

Actually if I found out why there was a traffic jam for this I'd be glad that the Secret Service is doing such a good job protecting the First Family from the right wing lunatics out there. Good job! She's the First Lady, not a prisoner of the White House. She's not confined to quarters so more power to her.

Exactly Linda the first family should be locked up in the white house! Until the presidents term is up they should remain indoors, god forbid they act like humans and leave the compound!! Why should they spend my hard earned tax dollars getting food?!. /sarcasm

R. Donald Snyder

So what? Who cares? Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill

Finally... sanity rules. Sums up this whole seed rather well.

There seems to be a lot of people on this thread who don't care, but keep right on posting comments. hehheh

Background for the literary reference: The Farmer in the Dell

Actually all previous administrations have sent someone out to buy the food since they have people for that.

One pound of Sea Bass (favorite of the former Secretary of the U.N.) $25.00.

Actually all previous administrations have sent someone out to buy the food since they have people for that.

But presumably prior first ladies have left the White House on occasion. Farmers markets are places to buy groceries, but they are also places to catch up with your neighbors, take the air, see whats come into season and sample the produce to see what you like. It's not only a trip to buy groceries. Michelle Obama has the same right to enjoy the experience as anyone else, and it's not unreasonable that security precautions be taken. So I ask again, in the context of prior administrations safety precautions, is this unreasonable?

Also I'm well aware of "The Farmer in the Dell" that's why I said that it could be taken as calling her a Ho. If I wasn't aware of the song, I'd assume they were just calling her a Ho. The point stands, I'm not saying it's a racist title, I'm saying it was chosen so that the Washington Post could bitch about liberals playing the race card when someone inevitably takes the bait.

Anyone know what a dell is? How would it relate to the farmers market?

- small valley: a small, usually wooded valley or hollow

Kind of a stretch from Hi-Ho the Derry-O to the Farmers Market.

Let's say you're preparing dinner and you realize with dismay that you don't have any certified organic Tuscan kale. What to do?

Here's how Michelle Obama handled this very predicament Thursday afternoon:

That is a big, fat lie from the very beginning of the article. The First Lady was not preparing dinner, had no predicament to handle, and did not go on a "little shopping trip." This was scheduled well in advance and the mayor also spoke before the crowd.

"I can't imagine there's been a day in the history of our country when people have been more excited about farmers markets," Mayor Adrian Fenty, Obama's warm-up act, told the crowd.

This should shame some of the people making insulting comments here but it won't. They look for anything to use against President Obama or his wife regardless of truth. The hatred and disrespect for our president is disgusting and has nothing to do with politics.

The hatred and disrespect for our president is disgusting and has nothing to do with politics.

Agreed SW!

WTF, wmolaw? Race baiting? How many people under 40 know the nursery rhyme? And what does it have to do with a farmers market? You called it a health food store in the early comments so don't come off so rightious in the connection. The title is from the opinion piece this was seeded from so maybe you don't get the subtly of the "Hi-Ho" he used along with the "little" shopping trip.

Not a very conservative paper? Did I say anything about conservative or liberal? Or bowing down? Or Bush? Oh yeah, all Obama supporters are liberals and blame everything on Bush so you were just trying to beat me to it.

Some people don't have the sense God gave a goose. I know an opinion piece from a news report. This seed was BS and not meant to be taken as fact.

wmolaw A bit extreem over one comment? This was an opinion piece which allows the author more room than an actual article.

What, do we have to scrub the entire English language, and all other languages

The only one who mentioned organics was the author who was trying to emphasize the elitist Michelle rather than the First Lady Michelle Obama:

It was an article about organic food farmer's market,

Facts are facts, eat 'em and weap!

This article from Huffington Post does not mention "organic" one time. Not one time!

This one is from yahoo news but is AP and does not say organic. Some of artical is same as HP but not all. This is also a link from Dana's article to Politico.

This is the BEST from your source, WaPo, which also does not mention organic. This one is NOT from Dana.

No, no, no. You misunderstand (at least you misunderstand me). My question is not whether she should be protected wherever she goes -- of course she should be.

My question is why the F.L. needs to go buy veggies? There didn't seem to be any agenda attached to this little outing. And, to just get a wild hare and knowingly inconvenience tons of people just because you're Jonesing for an organic exotic variety of hoity toity kale is kinda narcissistic. So, what gives?

My question is why the F.L. needs to go buy veggies?

Why not? She's the First Lady, not the First Prisoner. I just don't see the problem here.

Well, see the article, or the #12 post excerpt...

I read the article and still think, so what. Making a big deal out of this is beyond silly and petty.

Come on Tre, our First Lady does not belong to the kitchen and buying food from a very expensive market.

What about California vegetables?

I think there trying to turn the Californian farmland into desert.

Anyone knows if the water was turn on by the President in the Valley where the farmers are suffering due to the protection of a 2" fish?

http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/local&id=7020050&rss=rss-kfsn-article-7020050

Yes. It is a molehill. Tempest in a teapot. Much ado about nothing.

Britlassy Only Obammerites would consider this 'oh-hum' activity, with the spending as acceptable? They are going to single-handedly break the White House Budget Record of Ridiculous Spending

Are you talking about Nancy Reagan...you must be, you just got your administrations confused...you're excused.

Britlassy, did you read the rest of the article? You said:

Only Obammerites would consider this 'oh-hum' activity, with the spending as acceptable? They are going to single-handedly break the White House Budget Record of Ridiculous Spending.

The article, poorly written as it was, did quote the mayor as the "warm up" speaker for Mrs. Obama. This was a preplanned speaking event. She did not just pop out to the market to get some greens for supper.

It is her money, she can spend it however she wants. We never had to listen to pathetic stories about the Bushes eating Chilean Sea Bass or Filet Mignon. The president makes sevaeral hundred thousand dollars a year, of course they don't shop at the I.G.A.

I think the real problem the right has is that there is too much security for one of them to take a shot at one of the Obamas. Cry about it some more.

Sorry, the menus at the Bushes WH was mainly Chili, nothing in comparisson with the late Jacqueline Onasis-Kennedy.

Ding ding ding ding!!! We have a winner. First one to pull the R card on this board.

Hey, let's start a new game to see how many posts it takes the Obamabots to make the racism accusation on completely unrelated topics!

You could even make a list of who does it the most, and score them accordingly.

Ooooh. Good idea.

Horse Hockey. Not unrelated. Stop the wind from whistling through your ears and reread what was said above.

And followed up by a personal attack, too. Wanna go for the trifecta?

Personal attack. Talk about blowing things out of proportion. My God. You haven't seen a personal attack. Doesn't know the difference between a personal attack and a suggestion. Oh boy.

I have discovered when a liberal cannot justify a situation, the race card is pulled out to change the subject. Don't they realize that won't work anymore. If this country is so racist, how in the world did an Afro-American get elected.?

Your unbelievable, sad but true.

Good point, Darlene. I, too, want to be unbelievable and sad if it means I am telling the truth like Darlene.

But see since the right wants to pi$$ and moan, b!tch and complain about Obama or his other have, why don't you just come out and say, you do this because he is of color. That's saying it lightly. Pull your pillow case of your head, drop the sheet from your shoulders and say it.We don't like this BLACK POTUS. You can do it. Or maybe your not that bold.

Doesn't know the difference between a personal attack and a suggestion. Oh boy.

If I am not mistaken, THIS qualifies as a racist attack from a different angle, but a racist remark none the same.

If I meant BLACK =bad= prejudice=discrimination=

I would have said it...

I MEANT his spending, I MEANT his wife's demeanor of Lady Dictator NOT their colour. HE is proving to be the ongoing joke and increasing devastation of this country, along with the Civil unrest, and NOW people are WANTING To become segregated again, should tell you "change is not working"

Maybe look in the mirror and say ---3 times---CANDY MAN--CANDY MAN--CANDY MAN!!!

jscusmc69, too furking funny!

Yes, I responded to that one, too (was it posted prior to this one? Hm....I'll have to check). Well, I do hope the loser in the referee's decision won't go all Serena. The very idea that this event has anything to do with racism is amusing.

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If I referred to Obama as a mauve or teal man would that be a racist remark? Silly me, of course it would! If I would simply call him a man I would be a racist.

Just another example of manufactured outrage on the part of right wing cry babies.

At least this time she worn a sweater and had her arms covered. (sarcasm)

Just another example of manufactured outrage on the part of right wing cry babies.

Thank you for making some sense Jennifer. I swear some people will throw a fit if the Obama's smiled the wrong way.

Get a life people.

Now see, Jennifer, that would have made sense to me, but it's not how the WaPo (seeded) article read at ALL:

The first lady had encouraged Freshfarm Markets, the group that runs popular farmers markets in Dupont Circle and elsewhere, to set up near the White House, and she helped get the approvals to shut down Vermont Avenue during rush hour on Thursdays. But the result was quite the opposite of a quaint farmers market. Considering all the logistics, each tomato she purchased had a carbon footprint of several tons.

Seriously, it would have made more sense and been "greener" for her to motorcade or helicopter in to their normal location. And the author's point about the fine line between promoting the market and appearing to be elitist (remember Barack's unfortunate arugula remarks) is a good one. If she's going to be the organic food promoter in chief, I can get behind that, but I don't believe she is for that very (elitist) reason.

We have one at the present time..........we are just worred about keeping it that way.

wmolaw: It's a Farmers Market. Do you know what that is? The farmers, in this case from Chesapeake I think, bring their wares and set it out on tables for sale. There is all kinds of stuff, fruit, veggies, honey, salsa, jewelry, meat, seafood, carvings whatever. I did not go to this one but my wife goes to one sponsored by the same co. The vendors rent their tables. They close the block so the vendors and customers don't get run over, as they will be doing through the fall. The city of DC is promoting these markets to go along with Eastern Market.

What attendant costs? SS is detailed and salaried, the thimble of gas to go a couple of blocks? What else?

wmolaw - yeah but I also read the news account in the Washington Post and I'd been listening to it on the radio, so I had a little more background than your fluff piece, that's what you get when you turn to a Political columnist with an agenda for your news.

wmolaw - Seems you are the only one who did not read the article.

Bob: Did you read the article? Seems not.

• It's a Farmer's Market.
• It was planned in advance.
• The mayor was there to speak before the First Lady.
• People came out for the opening of the market and to hear the First Lady speak.
• She did not go shopping for kale because she wanted a side dish for supper - she does not cook.

If you seed something it is your responsibility to know if it is a news article or opinion. It is your responsibility to know what is in the article. It is also your responsibility to treat your readers with respect. You are failing on all counts. I understand you are a lawyer. That means you have at least a college education. Act like you have at least a college education.

When you can't argue fact you can always count on insult to prove your point.

And shove it buddy, don't need idiotic ad hominems from some dank skank on the Vine. If you understand I'm a lawyer then you know that I have at least a J.D. What's your education?

This article talks about the planning and applying for the permit:

Tuesday, 08 September 2009 source
Building on her reputation as an advocate for healthy eating, America's first lady, Michelle Obama, has reportedly submitted a permit application for a weekly farmers' market just blocks from the White House.

I have yet to use name calling as a tactic. It would seem that education and intelligence are not synonymous. By the way, it's homonyms.

SW Mule,

You are giving a bad show of arguing with the seeder.

What else is coming?

Sorry, I use spell check. I already questioned your education.

determined0a1 At least I use facts and links in my arguments which is more than our seeder. She would not resort to name calling, as she does further down the line, if I was giving such a bad show. What's next? Hominy, with a big slab of smoked country ham and peach cobbler for desert.

Almost forgot, thanks for the apology. It was really big of you. Education and class.

And shove it buddy, don't need idiotic ad hominems from some dank skank on the Vine.

SW mule,

The seeder is a He.

And I have the honor to "know" him for a long time now, he belongs to our group of New York Time Refugees that joined the NV in a block and Dr. JFXGillis is our leader.

We have conservatives, liberals, communist, Dems, sharpest knives in the drawer and a simpleton like moi .

I respect the man, the lawyer, the family man.

Oh! Funny I assumed he was a she when he said:

I know, as I said before I generally refer to all as "she." I will stop it.

I especially think it funny because he, wmolaw accused another of not reading the article where there is a large pic of the author, Dana, who is a man, yet he, wmolaw thought Dana was a woman. Of course he, wmolaw, said he generally refers to all as 'she.' So I figured all people could be referred to as 'she' including wmolaw.

homogenous? hominids? harmonies? What was the question? Oh yeah, add ham'n'eggs. I got it. BTW, as you can tell from my pic, well maybe you can't tell, I'm a she. Don't let that fool you, I still like hominy.

I think you mean #15, where Jennifer explains what this was really about.

So now it becomes "We the tax payer gets to pay for advertising of a local market by First Lady"

And I cannot believe we are making this a right/left issue. Michelle Obama is no longer as free as she use to be, that is a fact whether you like it or not. She knew upon entering this territory that life would not be the same as it once was. She is not a prisoner but a highly guarded political figurehead. She is NOT allowed to go any where unattended.

No, #1.5 is what I mean. Read it, it's the one that has been collapsed. It's not that difficult to figure out. Scroll up till you see it. You know, right there in front of you. I can't do it for you, you need to do this for yourself. Take a deep breath, scroll upward. Sendlo. Quit listening to Glenn and Rush, do some self healing.

Sorry, I honestly thought you meant #15. I could not decipher #1.5. It sounded like gardening tips.

Easy mistake Sendlo.

#15 was informative and useful while #1.5 was a waste of pixels, but you know what they say about trying to be helpful. “No good deed ... etc. etc” :-)

There was probably regular priced produce at the stand but the author decided to highlight the higher priced organics and the yarn (not sure who he thinks eats yarn). Organics are more expensive as they are usually grown in smaller quantities with greater hands-on care.

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I am interested in knowing if Bo has to eat green only.

I love how the Democrats on this seed have demonstrated the Obama shuffle so well. Its all about "organic food". It has nothing to do on the real tragedy..of how she went about it, when the White House does not have people who could have gone to the market for Michelle Obama causing less fanfare, saved untold amounts of money, and inconvenienced a lot less people. All this was, was more Obama sensationalism from the White Houses circus. From that awesome and daring magician Obama..."Ok in my left hand I have...no, no, no do not look at my right hand, STOP LOOKING AT MY RIGHT HAND! Good, in my left hand I have..."

Michelle Obama on a trip to purchase a bunch of Tuscan kale - $25,000.00

The cost of sending a White House worker to do the same thing - $30.00

The Obama's once again making a**es out of themselves in public - Priceless!

taao: She was invited by the Farmers Market and the City of DC to speak at the opening - she then supported the venture by shopping since she was there anyway.

Hey any excuse will do won't it Bob. I'm so happy you are comfortable with it. Because again thats whats really important isn't it.

wmolaw, Does a grocery store carry organics? Do they carry non-organics? Do the organics cost more? Does a person have to buy organics to eat healthy? Is it really that hard? Do you have any idea what a farmers market is?

Either way, "organic" food is expensive, even if it's not really 'organic' but just called organic.

When I was very young my family lived in the city. Early Saturday mornings we went to the farmers market and bought bushels of apples, peaches, green beans and potatoes. Mom would can what we would not eat right away. The food was fresh, cheaper than the store, you got to talk with the farmer who grew the stuff. You knew where your food came from. Now we hardly know what country it was grown in or how long ago it was picked. Maybe you don't understand all this because you were not exposed to a simple life.

Did I say we were looking for organics? Back in the 60s we didn't have to worry about chemical fertilizers and pesticides from local farmers. We washed the apple and watched out for the worm. This was NOT an organic issue. This is about fresh, locally grown, know the farmer, ask questions issue. This article, "Hi-Ho..." by Dana the opinionated bastard is the only one I have found that says "organic." Perhaps you should follow your advice.

Come on, get with the program. you have no clue.

Michael Moore could use your advise also, Barney, Wright, et al.

Maybe...but I wasn't talking about them, or Rush or Army et al.

I would not be afraid to go outside either if I had armed bodyguards, police to block off an entire street, a store cleared of people for me and bomb sniffing dogs.

Comparing weekday downtown DC to a small town is totally off the spot. I used to manage a service provider whose clientele base was primarily downtown. The economic impact of closing streets there is huge. In our case, we would incur late fees for missing delivery target times, have to reshedule missed deliveries to the following day, and rack up overtime for employees. Then there's the infamous DC parking ticket writers when you have to park elsewhere. I suspect in these lean times it's an even bigger hit for those firms struggling to stay in business. If you lived and worked here you'd have a better understanding and probably a different view.

dontbh8n: You make good points which is why DC did a traffic impact study BEFORE granting the Farmers Market a permit. The Farmers Market will be open every Thursday through the fall with the attendant street closures. Apparently this first one went off without any traffic problems.

Actually, the "elite" are organizing tea parties...like Dick Armey...

"Here's the catch," Moyers says after showing video clips with protesters decrying "the lies" coming from the Obama administration. "Something these marchers who came to Washington at Armey's urging could hardly be expected to know. For most of his adult life, their leader has benefited from just the kind of government tax-supported health care he's fighting to keep them from having too."

It's a fascinating run down of Armey's adult life working in universities and for the government, made comfortable and secure by state-funded health care -- "the Cadillac of coverage."

"Dick Armey is the epitome of those people with power and privilege who are insured against the vicissitudes of life and want no government assistance for any suffering except their own," Moyers says.

Tea Party Organizer is Epitome of Privilege

Geez, Barbara Bush and Nancy Reagan are both as elite as they come. Just as Michelle is now. You cannot have the limelight and not be elite. You cannot have every whim taken care of free of charge and not be elite. Definition reads:

a group of persons exercising the major share of authority or influence within a larger group

These women have influence, they are all elite

Most of your post is based on lies. Look up the 5 star hotel and lobster...

Holy crap, you discounted everything but the lobster with no proof, which you can get at most restaurants located within the 5 star hotel.

So lets look at the rest of what I said.

Hope she vomits...personal opinion

She was finally proud to be an american, which implied she never was before...documented

Free lodging...documented

Free clothing......documented

Free travel...documented

world bowing to her, personal opinion, but lets say a police officer refuses to block off the street while she shops, what do you think would happen to him/her?............mandated bowing

Did she ever leave the country she was never proud of?...Nope..............documented

Is the country not in shambles?...............unless you're a politician or one of his paid grant recipients you'd never know....or care, but little clue here Jimmy Carter, things aren't looking good economically, unless you actually are Jimmy Carter you'd never be able to comprehend if it was or not and still think you're doing an outstanding job.

Politicans and washington are out of touch................documented, unless that is, you belong to this clueless elite class, again you'd never know the differance.

Is him and her living like a king and queen?............documented

Thank you for playing, now go back to drinking the kool-aid.

It's funny that all of the facts you presented are true, yet the left totally ignores them. I don't think they're drinking regular kool-aid, they're drinking spiked kool-aid.

You know, you are right fife...maybe the Obama's should not get free housing. They should go rent their own house somewhere and we should cut off the electricity at that silly White House.

Living like a king and queen? Well, here in America...the President is the HIGHEST OFFICE. They are supposed to live well. If we put them in the trailer park next to you, don't you think we'd lose some credibility, what with all of those other international Presidents living in nice pads?

Why do you want THIS president to live differently from any other president who has occupied the White House?

fifesharppy: She is not an elected official or a politician what does #8 and 9 have to do with her in any way whatsoever? Why should she have left this country? I never have - got a problem with that? Bowing is your own delusional BS, revel in it. The hotel and lobster were BS and Murdoch appeared on CNN and made an apology and retracted it.

And the quote was

"What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something—for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud." source

She never said she was not proud, only that she was really proud as in more proud than before.

Yeah, hungry is the word............35 million and the change is not coming, just more of the same. This shows me that corruption is not limited by color, education, or background, the greed is all the same.

SW Mule...thanks for corrected people on that falsehood...I am so sick of people saying Michelle Obama is a bad person for saying this....and these are the same people who want to secede from the union or call their President a nazi and worse. Such disgusting hypocrites.

I was proud of my country until I found out that the leaders of my country were torturing people...then I became ashamed of my country...then President Obama was elected and I became proud of my country again. I think we all go through periods where our country does something that makes us question it...but to take the statement that Ms. Obama said...out of context...and try to use it to make her seem like a bad person is just ridiculous.

Were you for the first time in your life proud of your country like Michelle Obama was proud of her country for the "first" time in her life in 2008? I laughed, I cried, I made thousands of julienne fries!

Yeah, hungry is the word............35 million and the change is not coming, just more of the same

VIVA: Good one ! All those people who voted for " change " because " they are the change they've been waiting for ! " boy, did they got took with that bullsh*t , didn't they !

Yeah, their Change was...........no job, no house, no food, fool.

Was Obama to blame for those who lost their jobs and houses before he was in office? This did not start in January or last September.

Actually that blame goes squarely on ole Bill Clintons head solidly.

Nah, life was good when Bill left office. Remember? I had a good job, nice house, money in the bank, decent car, credit cards were paid off. How 'bout you?

taao

Were you for the first time in your life proud of your country like Michelle Obama was proud of her country for the "first" time in her life in 2008?

Have you had grammar or reading comprehension in school yet?

she said:

for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country

Go find an English teacher to help you read that comment. I realize it suits your rhetoric better to misquote her but most people on here have read what she said and the explanation and sincere apology she issued several times afterword, that you refuse to accept it is fine but at least don't try to misrepresent her. If you can't make her look bad with the facts maybe you should reconsider.

Hey Bob I have always considered people who like to correct the grammer of others in forum communities to be sort of weak minded. It usually means they have nothing of substance to contribute. I am so glad there are people such as yourself who prove that point explicitly. Do you think her husband will also apologise for all the damage he has done and will do to this country? I mean I do so value your opinion so.

taao - you do need help reading. I was not correcting your grammar - I was pointing out that an understanding of grammar would assist you in understanding what you are reading. I fear it is hopeless, no telling what you will turn this into. I like how you deflected, usually means the poster can't substantiate what they said. Get this...Obama was elected, Michelle wasn't. I don't think either one needs to apologize, but Michelle least of all. When Bush apologizes, oh never mind that's right up there with when pigs fly. You know that's the thing with Newsvine you get my opinion whether you want it or not AND I don't care if you value it!!

Well Bob that is thankfully where I have people such as you yourself and a fine democrat base at my disposal to help me through the rough points in my education. To help guide and mold me and tell me exactly what to do, how to think, how to live. I mean you would not believe how I am swelling with gratitude and pride right now. I have tears here, I really do!

Like I said, no telling what you would turn what I said into. A suggestion to read more carefully and do the people on here the courtesy of understanding what they wrote makes you feel you are being molded. Sad. Hey no problem, any time you find yourself adrift let me know, I'm here for you buddy, I can recommend some good books or just listen if that's what you need most. I don't need your gratitude, it's enough to know I helped a fellow NV friend today. Hey since you can cry on cue FOX has a place for you! I'll watch for you and say I knew him/her when.

Bob, Bob, Bob...why do I need Fox? I can get all the "true" news from you guys! I mean just think about it for a second...if we all watch the same things, we all earn the same amount of money, we are all provided the same healthcare, we all think the same. We could either be socialists or Borg! I like it! Lets be Borg!

I oh so love the Land of the Free! Wait! I had an epiphany! I finally understood the change Obama was talking about! It isn't the Land of the Free! Its the Free to Land!

Yeah, if only Michelle would keep her (needs a orthodontist) mouth shut, people might like her. She is an angry, over educated, waste of humanity, with an ego that is over inflated by liberals. Lots of people come from humble beginnings in this country and in turn do good for the society. She is not able to move from the little box she was grown in. Michelle has been coddled by the left and so she is completely lost trying to find a national cause. She is in a position to learn and to grow, but her mind set is stagnant and so even with her big staff...........comes off shallow. The image is very negative, she's not the excellent used car salesman her husband is.

Taao: I didn't say you needed FOX, I just suggested if you can cry on cue they might be interested in you and hey I don't think believing what you are saying is a requirement either. If you don't need a high paying job no matter, just a suggestion. I'll be looking for that free land soon, have my eye on a heating grate near Lafayette Park, figure I could "wave" at all the politicians and blend with the whakos!! ;) I'd like to earn the same amount as ANYBODY cause I haven't worked since last fall. I'm tired of earning the same as all the other unemployed / self employed = zero dollars! (Do me a favor could you please not attack me for my current circumstances, if you do I'm putting you on my ignore list)

Hey VIVA - how's it going? You know maybe we should add dental insurance to the health insurance package, what if it does cost a few bill more. Good idea, I'll credit you! Good thing we didn't elect Michelle then. Maybe we should be able to elect the Prez's wife? That could be fun. I don't really pay her much attention, she seems like a good Mom and daughter and that's good. Seems like Obama loves her, that's good for them and the kids. Past that I don't think I care.

My computer is not working properly, I'm signing off and seeing if I can fix it. Are either of you having log on and posting issues with NV?

Bob, I might end up on the grate next to you, who knows? I agree they do make a beautiful family picture..........thanks to living in the land of opportunity, best country in the world. Hope your circumstances improve, which way to Lafayette Park?

Thank you Bob for dispensing with the condescending and superior attitude.

First off kicking a person when they are down is a Democrat thing. The current social clime is a very prominent and inarguable demonstration of that very fact.

You do not have to go anywhere for that free land, your current state of employment should be telling you that unequivocably, no one said it would be free to you or I. You think its bad now? Wait till amnesty is granted for illegals and an employment crisis that is still critical and growing more so, regardless of how many times Democrats will go on t.v. and launch a ridiculous tirade about how things are getting better. When your family is starving because Obama needs to attempt to build his future voter base for 2012 with your job. How do you explain that to them?

No posting issues here, need to clear your cache?

taao: Thanks for the words, well some of them anyway ;0 I was trying to sound funny, another career I need to abandon!

well that could be it...what does clear your cache mean?

VIVA: Laffeyette Park is right across from this great big White House. There will always be room on our grate for you and yours. Nice organic market nearby, we can collect the rotten veggies and lodge them over the fence, so funny!!

To some folks, the rotten veggies, might just be a little more flavorful..........smile

Nope Bob-725866, she did not say:

"for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country"

What she said first earlier in the day in Millwaukee, WI was:

"For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country."

Later in the day, she said:

"For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country."

But she did not say"...really proud...", she said "...really proud..." The extra word is really, but it's a throwaway like "very". But even if you prefer the ambiguity to mean that she's been proud before, and now she's very, really, unbelieveably, incredibly proud, more proud than the pride she's always had before, it does not explain why she did indeed say:

"For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country."

Look it up.

So? She changed it. She also apologized and explained what she meant. Satisfies me. I got taken to task right on this thread by VIVA and her description of what I said is not what I meant at all. I apologized and explained. Happens. Things come out horribly wrong. This has never happened to you?

Now thats funny! The Democrat party...those who are able to accept apologies gracefully...when its a Democrat apologizing that is. How it must be so nice to live in their deluded universe, while the rest of us have to deal with a reality they love to deny.

I've heard it stated in this community that Democrats have no sense of humor. Those that state that, are 100% wrong!

So? She changed it. She also apologized and explained what she meant. Satisfies me.

Satisfies you? Good for you then. But you made some effort #26.15 explaining what she actually said, and for some reason failed to mention what she actually said. Do you think there's a significant difference between her entire life and her entire adult lifetime? Apparently you feel I've slighted her childhood and adolescent years. She was born in 1964. Was she an adult when...say 21? Since 1985 then, wasn't there anything to be proud of, ok, really proud of? I can think of one thing she could be proud of, even if I wouldn't be. Affirmative action laws got her into Princeton with sub-par grades (by her own admission in a Newsweek interview). I bet there must be other things too, if she really scratched her head. I wonder how her husband feels knowing she wasn't really proud of his election to the Illinois senate. Poor guy.

I have always loved my country but I have been ashamed of the "big, fat, American tourists" that have embarrassed us throughout the world. I have been embarrassed by the television shows of American life presented to the rest of the world. I am embarrassed by our young music stars. I am embarrassed by the protesters with tea bags stapled to their hats. I am embarrassed by what our sports have done to colleges and high schools. Michelle Obama had it right but said it wrong. She is doing much better with her public speaking now. At least what she said made sense rather than some random words strung together with no meaning, maverick.

Incredulous -

for some reason failed to mention what she actually said

well that would be because I didn't know until you told me, so obviously I couldn't have mentioned it. She said it, she explained it, you hate her anyway, got it. I think entirely too much has been made of one comment, she's made many, many more good ones.

BTW: I wouldn't be "proud" of affirmative action, I'd be thankful, and he wasn't the first black to get elected to State Senate, we have allowed blacks those offices before, and it's her life not yours so worry about what you are thankful for. Of course she has been proud as an adult which goes to show why your judgement of her remark is off the mark and you might want to reconsider her explanation and what she did mean.

Why would Europe or their people embarrass me? I don't live there. I am not embarrassed by my country although I don't agree with some of our policies. Do you have any family members, friends or co-workers who embarrass you by their actions? Although it is not a reflection on you personally, you might still blush at the thought that someone will associate you with the other person. Say you go out for a few drinks after work and a co-worker gets drunk in a hurry and starts acting stupid. Wouldn't you want to quietly slip away and swear the next day that you were not there? If you went to a college that was later known for its partying, even though it was not when you attended, would you feel embarrassed?

Oh, never mind. With the attitude you have shown I doubt you would be embarrassed by your own actions much less someone else.

Mule,

You are so embarrased that you are embarrasing yourself in this seed.

You are so embarrased that you are embarrasing yourself in this seed.

Really determine?

That's one reason I enjoy vesting Newsvine. We read the same exchanges and came to completely opposite conclusions. I found SW Missouri Mules comments clear, concise and informative. More light and less heat than Wmolaw post, (Dank Skank!? Really?)

Mules post were well done, Wmolaws not so much.

determined0a1, do you have a point or argument" Or is your purpose to support wmolaw. I will happily debate with you also if you have some point of contention.

Ref. #26.31 Your embarrassing "hurt" my feelings.

Being/been a Nationalized American makes me so proud of the country that open the arms to us.

Well, I know that is difficult to understand and only we, that went through leaving our country of origin knows.

determined0a1, I admire your bravery to leave your country of origin to come to America or for your family to come. All Americans traveling overseas do not act like the "tourists." I am referring to the ones who take no time to learn about the country or people they are visiting. Those who think that if they shout in English that the other language person will understand. Those who think they can ignore the laws and customs of other countries. Those Americans who go to another country then treat those citizens like servants. Some co-workers went to Ireland years ago. My friend was drunk most of the time and remembers little of the trip. She does remember ordering a hamburger - in Ireland - and it had all sorts of things in it, like corn and beans. She said it was bad. I asked why she ordered a hamburger in Ireland. It would be like going to Mexico and expecting the food to be like Taco Bell.

You are misunderstanding why I am embarrassed by the American tourists. I am not embarrassed by my country. I hope my explanation makes it more clear.

Ha ha, I mean Hi Ho. There is more to Afghanistan than the Taliban but I would not want to visit anyway. Ireland, the problem she had was that she missed the whole trip. Can't remember much of anything. Why go to another country to get drunk. She could have done that at home. And had an American hamburger. She does not eat seafood. In other words, she missed everything but the beer and after the first few they all taste the same. She was a poor representation and she knows it. She still drinks heavily but does it at home.

Why would I be embarrassed by a visiting tourist from Germany or any other country? I'm not German or Irish or Russian. How would they embarrass me?

I don't expect people to be perfect but I do think they should have some pride, manners, respect when they go out, especially out of the country. I don't want people to associate me to some arrogant, ignorant, abusive tourist. I don't want other countries to think that all Americans are rude, arrogant, torturous. Think about how a few in our armed forces have acted. That is not me and not how America should be represented. Oh, but I'm a liberal so what I think is just touchy-feely stuff. I should be concerned about our military strength, not a few tourists.