
Let's say you're preparing dinner and you realize with dismay that you don't have any certified organic Tuscan kale. What to do?
Here's how Michelle Obama handled this very predicament Thursday afternoon:
The Secret Service and the D.C. police brought in three dozen vehicles and shut down H Street, Vermont Avenue, two lanes of I Street and an entrance to the McPherson Square Metro station. They swept the area, in front of the Department of Veterans Affairs, with bomb-sniffing dogs and installed magnetometers in the middle of the street, put up barricades to keep pedestrians out, and took positions with binoculars atop trucks. Though the produce stand was only a block or so from the White House, the first lady hopped into her armored limousine and pulled into the market amid the wail of sirens.
Then, and only then, could Obama purchase her leafy greens. "Now it's time to buy some food," she told several hundred people who came to watch. "Let's shop!"
I don't know, can this admin become anymore bizarre, expensive, elitist?
Obama, in her brief speech to the vendors and patrons, handled the affordability issue by pointing out that people who pay with food stamps would get double the coupon value at the market. Even then, though, it's hard to imagine somebody using food stamps to buy what the market offered: $19 bison steak from Gunpowder Bison, organic dandelion greens for $12 per pound from Blueberry Hill Vegetables, the Piedmont Reserve cheese from Everson Dairy at $29 a pound. Rounding out the potential shopping cart: $4 for a piece of "walnut dacquoise" from the Praline Bakery, $9 for a jumbo crab cake at Chris's Marketplace, $8 for a loaf of cranberry-walnut bread and $32 for a bolt of yarn.
Gotta tell you, rationality has left the building, that is the White House building!
Here's what I don't get about this story: what's the point? The woman has a staff of dozens. Was she actually cooking for someone? Did her mom need the tuscan kale? Why did she insist upon being seen shopping at some hoi palloi green grocer?
There has to be some reason that I'm just not seeing. Some machiavellian point...
wmolaw---I guess it's much too late in the season to find kale in Michele Obama's kitchen garden.......which will be open for public tours this october:
Yep, there goes michelle, tip-toeing throught the tulips in the land of fa la la la la.
OK, wmolaw.
You and I were haveng a respectful debate on the other channel a few moments ago so I will keep up the trend between you and I.
It is obvious you and I stand on opposite sides of the political spectrum. That's fine...lends to lively debates.
But, riddle me this... you went on about the cost of the "shopping trip" :
Are the secret service only paid when they actually get out of their "hidey spot" and guard our President and First Lady ?
Seems to me they are already paid because they are on the clock fulltime anyway.
So in the same respect one could admonish the administration for not going out and utilizing the secret service, thereby wasting our money with just having them sit there idle.
A fair and just rebuttal ya think ?
WHAT NO poke salad in the garden OR along the fences! DIDN'T PLANT any---what about the Mellons OR the Tomatoes? NONE of these HOW about Collard Greens--she could have used these!!
Whispers hears that the staff is planning a fall crop of veggies like cukes and radishes. And it most likely won't end there. Master gardeners tell us that the D.C. area is ripe for cool-weather crops like beets, turnips, lettuce, collards, and leeks.
jscusmc69 LT U.S.C.D.F
I love good collard greens! Best greens in Los Angeles are at The Soul Food Kitchen in Inglewood. Hope the next time the Obamas are out here I highly recommend them.
The rediculous part of this is the loss of business to the stores and markets in the area that had to be closed off because she couldn't send someone to the store to get it for her.
Ridiculous article! The author (Dana Milbank) is the same misogynist who was forced to apologize for saying Hillary Clinton drinks "Mad @!$%#" beer. He obviously has a problem with strong intelligent women and is compensating for the lack of something by attacking them every chance he gets.
Dana Milbank should be pitied and ignored.
Michelle Obama is strong, classy, smart and beautiful...he's just jealous.
I don't know, can this admin become anymore bizarre, expensive, elitist?
WTF is "bizarre" about buying food? The whole piece is stupid and juvenile. She's the First Lady, anytime she goes out Secret Service will be with her. Its their job to be as safe as possible, so they do what they deem necessary. Grow up!
The First Lady does not cook.
The First Lady does not cook.
How do you know?
I know the prices of food and a pound of pinenuts the last time was $15-$17/pound.
How many can afford Pesto in this country?
I don't know much about prices for pinenuts and pesto, but our grocery store has a sale on hamburger helper -- 88 cents a box. I went shopping today, too.
???
I don't know much about prices for pinenuts and pesto
I really don't care for either. I'm making hamburger sliders tonight.....mmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!
Hamburger sliders -- now that's American value! LOL
Damon1, So in the same respect one could admonish the administration for not going out and utilizing the secret service, thereby wasting our money with just having them sit there idle
The problem is, the D.C. Police are paid to patrol the streets. When michelle goes out like this, it costs the local police agencies money, which the feds/secret service do not re-imburse. It's just like all of obama's trips of late. This costs the states and local governments money they do not have right now, not to mention the waste of fuel, etc. As another poster also stated, it affects the businesses around the store she is going to, as well as people going to and from work, school etc, when streets are closed and traffic is disrupted to let the motorcade through. Bottom line, it's a waste of our money and resources for a publicity trip. Don't even want to get started on her shopping trip to England a few months ago.
And they represent the American independent spirit because I'm going to make them myself instead of going to White Castle! Besides, mine are better.
;-)
You make me proud to be American, R. Donald! Wish I was having that instead of hamburger helper, but then again, hamburger helper is better than many people in the world have tonight.
Bottom line, it's a waste of our money and resources for a publicity trip
So she should just never leave the White House. Right? And if she didn't the right wing would be whining that Michelle is too lazy to meet her obligations as First Lady. Or they'd wonder out loud what does she have to hide. Or she's refusing to be a proper First Lady. Face it, you guys would bi*tch no matter what she does or doesn't do. THAT'S the bottom line.
Wish I was having that instead of hamburger helper, but then again, hamburger helper is better than many people in the world have tonight.
RAmen, we are lucky here. AND I'm going to make FRENCH fries and tomorrow FRENCH toast!
How do you know?
Because it's obvious.
R.Donald Snyder,
what I'm saying is some of these trips are a waste of taxpayer's money. If she only needed one item to fix dinner, she could have sent someone out to get it. This would not have hurt the businesses around the place she went, as customers were unable to get to their shops with the street closed. I have no problem with some of the events she goes to, but common sense has to prevail also. Just like the Fish & Chips trip to England several months ago, this cost the taxpayers money, and in the current time, it is money the government/taxpayers do not have. If Laura Bush had done this, the liberals would have crucified her and George Bush. But the liberals do not seem to have a problem with what obama and michelle do. Just another double standard.
If she only needed one item to fix dinner, she could have sent someone out to get it.
Because that's not why she went there. She went there as a pre-planned trip to promote buying food at your local farmers market. It's no different then if Laura went to a school to promote education (and no we never crucified her for that and in fact Laura was quite popular with all Americans, left and right (though personally I always thought she was a bit daft)). This is a tempest in a teapot, but it does give the right wing a way to make up a reason to whine. This is a trumped up reason to bi*tch about Michelle and nothing more.
I couldn't get the original article to load, hughes.net sucks, and was going off the article at the top. I finally got it to load, and I still think it is a waste. The average person is not going to shop at this type of market, because it is not your typical farmers market. Our local farmers market, and the amish market get a lot of local business, and everything is reasonably priced. From what the article said, this market would be out of the price range of even the federal employees in the area. So if the purpose is to showcase farmers market, it would have made more sense to showcase one that the average person could afford and would go to, not a high priced specialty market. Either way, it is a waste of money in these economic times just to highlight a fancy market well above the average Americans pay scale.
I've got a yard full of 'organic dandelion greens', free to anyone wanting to pick them.
Good seed wmolaw.
This is not a ridiculous seed as someone mentioned. The trip to the market and all the media frenzy and needless street closings and bomb sniffing dogs and local polica and other shoppers having to wait to shop.
As a mom I can understand Mrs. Obama wanting to shop on her own, but she is the first lady and did not need to take such a silly and selfish risk.
As a mom I can understand Mrs. Obama wanting to shop on her own, but she is the first lady and did not need to take such a silly and selfish risk.
It was not a shopping trip. It was a pre-planned promotion to try to get people to eat healthier food, such as what's usually available from their local farmers market. It was a planned public appearance of the First Lady to promote healthy food. I mean it's not like she was walking through the White House kitchen and said "Oh were low on some veggies, I'll run out and get some".
This is the kind of thing ALL First Ladies do and if she decided not to do it then the right wing nuts here would be whining "Oh, so she thinks she's too good to go where regular people shop!" You guys are going to bi*tch no matter what she does.
Mr. Snyder,
What is good for our President and our gracious First Lady don't mean that's good for me.
I had a tentative cold and had 10 cups of chicken broth a day. Full of fat, with corn and egg noodles.
Do you think that aurugula and kale could do the trick?
What in the hell are you talking about? You know it is possible to take too much NyQuil. I'm just sayin'..............
Lmao.
Damon1
So in the same respect one could admonish the administration for not going out and utilizing the secret service, thereby wasting our money with just having them sit there idle.
No. You're taking advantge of a little chicken and eggy situation. You might as well say that as long as the Secret Service has bomb sniffing dogs, bullet proof vests, armored cars, tanks, helicopters, a destroyer, eighteen aircraft carriers, two back marine battalions as back up, eighty-seven hundred grenade launchers, and a partridge in a pear tree (along with the pear tree), then why shouldn't she go on an expedition to the top of Kilimanjaro to fetch the most natural bouqet of flowers for her Sunday table? I mean, as long as they are at her beck and call , why not use them?
That's what you said. The point is that she (or any First Lady) wouldn't need all that stuff, if she just had her must trusted of the couple of dozen assistants to bring her back a bunch of flowers, and the freshest kale she could find in the 50 United States.
But she wants to go shopping, so she needs all those aircraft carriers and the pear tree partridge.
I wonder if anyone was inconvenienced. That probably is also irrelevant to The Obamas.
That probably is also irrelevant to The Obamas.
Did you even bother to read or even attempt to understand why she went? It was not to go shopping. This was not a case of her running out to get some lettuce when a staffer could have done it. It was a public appearance by the First Lady of the United States of America to promote healthy eating. It was the same kind of event First Ladies always attend. It's no different then Laura Bush attending an event at a school to promote reading or education, which is what she did all of the time. No different then Nancy Reagan attending an event to promote the idea of not using drugs. None. No different, except that small minded people have decided they don't want this particular First Lady to do the same things as all other First Ladies simply because they do not like her or the President.
These are the kind of things any reasonable and intelligent American expects the First Lady to do. If she hadn't done it you'd bit*ch that she thinks she's too good to do the same things all other First Ladies do. If she saved a child from drowning you'd find a way to bi*tch about that too. Sad.
Are you delusional or just dreaming? She promoted healthy eating? To whom? Is there someone there who will benefit from eating locally grown organic food who will buy this stuff with food stamps? She wants everyone to eat healthy food, well, whoopdeedoo, who doesn't?
Even then, though, it's hard to imagine somebody using food stamps to buy what the market offered: $19 bison steak from Gunpowder Bison, organic dandelion greens for $12 per pound from Blueberry Hill Vegetables, the Piedmont Reserve cheese from Everson Dairy at $29 a pound. Rounding out the potential shopping cart: $4 for a piece of "walnut dacquoise" from the Praline Bakery, $9 for a jumbo crab cake at Chris's Marketplace, $8 for a loaf of cranberry-walnut bread and $32 for a bolt of yarn.
Did you actually read the article?
These are the kind of things any reasonable and intelligent American expects the First Lady to do.
Absolutely not. Growing food in her own garden at the WH is something she can do. Pushing her own causes is fine with me. But do you seriously think the poor of D.C. or Obama's former constituents from the south side of Chicago get something out of her extolling the virtues of organic carrots and crab cakes? She might as well explain the practicality of buying expensive clothing...it lasts longer.
Our gracious First Lady probably needed a break from her input in the Health Insurance change.
I am assuming that she is very much involved in the draft from the White House.
These are the kind of things any reasonable and intelligent American expects the First Lady to do.
She has no official job or powers.. so she isn't expected to technically do anything at all. The position of the First Lady is not an elected one, carries no official duties, and receives no salary. Nonetheless, first ladies have held a highly visible position in U.S. government.[2] The role of the first lady has evolved over the centuries. She is, first and foremost, the hostess of the White House.[2] She organizes and attends official ceremonies and functions of state either along with, or in place of, the president.
That's about it. America elected her husband... not her. And of course Obama and her where the ones who told American's "everyone needs to cut back and make sacrifices, blah blah". What cutbacks and sacrifices are they doing? I remember JFK donated his salary of POTUS to charity to do his part. Why doesn't Obama do the same? Talk the talk, how about walk the walk. Do steps to save us tax payer money for frivolous things... and be different then past Presidents. After all.. he CHOSE this job.. it wasn't forced on him.
Wow. I'm so amazed at the insantity I am reading here...I just don't even know if it is worth the effort to further explain the obvious. (Several people, including myself, have clearly explained already...but there seems to be a rubber wall of ignorance bouncing everything back with a bunch of nonsense.)
Incredulous: Obviously you did read THIS article which is a tainted and misleading report on an official event held by the First Lady. A little bit of google willl quickly direct you to the actual news which explains that 'healthy eating' IS one of the causes this particular FL is promoting. ALL Americans benefit from local fresh farmer's markets (farmers as well as consumers). And, most farmer's markets don't actually have bison steak...but this one happens to be in the heart of a big city where this kind of higher end stuff would be offered. The event was to promote eating fresh from farmer's markets...wherever you may live. Either way, your argument that people with food stamps would not benefit from eating fresh farmer's market foods is...nonsense.
Simplistic: I think you are being a little too simplistic lately. Do you really think that the FL doesn't have anything she is obligated to do? Do you...really?
You know that EVERY FL champions causes. This FL happens to be a health conscious mother who wants to improve the health of Americans and eliminate problems with obesity, etc. Do you really, honestly, have a problem with that? Do you really think that the most visible woman in our country should not spend any time or energy promoting a good cause? Did you know that the street in question is closed every Thursday for the farmer's market and streets in DC (and every city/town) get closed for events all the time? Did you actually look into the nature of this event or just read this hateful and sarcastic article for your "facts"? Have you ever been to a farmer's market? Come on. You know better. In case you don't...check out this link where you can find a summary of the various causes championed by First Ladies since Johnson. Michelle Obama is NOT out of line...the rest of you are.
http://www.america.gov/st/usg-english/2008/September/20080926162204naneerg0.8945886.html
As for Obama donating his salary...whatever. I chose my job, too, but I'm not going to donate my salary. A comparison to JFK is nonsense. The Kennedy's were extremely wealthy people before and after his presidency. The Obama's are relatively wealthy from Obama's book revenues...but in comparison to the Kennedy fortunes...the Obama's make pocket change. Incidentally, Michelle Obama gave up her $300k/year salary when her husband took on this President thing. Prior to that, she made much more than her husband's Senate salary. The President is definitely entitled to take his salary and to suggest that he should not for some reason is...kinda socialist. I don't think Bush or Clinton donated their salaries to charity...in fact, Clinton approved a raise just in time for Bush to receive double his income at $400k/year. (Bush also started off more wealthy than the Obama's...but I don't see you lamenting the fact that he cashed his pay checks.) **sigh**
You guys are killing me with this silliness. There are plenty of real issues to debate. This one is petty. Why are you so bitter?
A little more than just a shopping trip wouldn't you say WM???????????
Michelle Obama keynoted the opening of the market. Did you read only your seed or, like, did you read/watch the news? Or are you purposefully trying to pass this off to the masses who so blindly read all disagreeable statements about the First Family just to get the chance to wag their fingers and tongues about how they loathe them?
What the heck is your point to seed this without checking the sources?Â
"The First Lady celebrated with a crowd of several hundred people who braved the rain for the opening of the Freshfarm Farmers' Market Thursday in Washington, D.C., a market that supports locally grown produce and encourages people to eat healthier.
"All right, I have to say, I have never seen so many people so excited about fruits and vegetables," Obama told the locals. "This is a very, very good thing."
The First Lady was joined by Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack and Washington, D.C. mayor Adrian Fenty."
I want to know who yelled out "Hi" when they saw Mrs. O.
wmolaw~
Perhaps if not for all of the death threats the Obama's have received at the hands of right wing loonies this scene might have been avoided.
R.Donald Snyder wrote:
It was a public appearance by the First Lady of the United States of America to promote healthy eating.
My friend, I was pretty supportive until this little comment. I don't need the first lady promoting healthier eating--let alone some friggin' chi-chi greens. She should eat what she wants--and I can eat what I want. Iceberg lettuce works just fine for me...
How about, if Ms. Obama wants people to eat healthier, she advises her husband to stop his pork spending and give that money to local soup kitchens, which are struggling in every single state to help support the people who are unemployed and have little to eat? Huh? How about that?
What's bizarre about the 1st Lady going grocery shopping? Just because she has a full staff at her beck and call to do anything she wants them to, is she not allowed to go to the store? The Secret Service is supposed to ensure her safety whether she's at home in DC or in some small country town.......that's what they do. It goes without saying that sometimes traffic will be interrupted etc. I guess Michelle is supposed to just wait by the door/window until some 'servant' brings back what she herself wanted to go pick out.
I remember when Reagan visited the base I was stationed at and everything/traffic was put on a standstill until his plane landed, etc. Where I worked was nowhere near the runway. I remember thinking 'Good Lord! We're on a military base, is all this necessary?'
Not that he was coming there to shop for food :-) but the point is, closing down streets etc., comes with their territory when they move among us. Presidents and their wives are people just like we are and NEWS BULLETIN, they like to do the same things we do!
As for the 'expensive' and 'elitist' - I think that's being totally unfair. Do you mean 'expensive' as in the cost of the food (they're rich remember) or in using the SS. As someone else has already pointed out the SS is on duty 24/7 and it's their job to protect her whereever she goes and whatever she does. Do you mean 'elitist' for the very same aforementioned items? Again I say unfair assessment.
Poor woman - everything she does is put under a microscope.
How about, if Ms. Obama wants people to eat healthier, she advises her husband to stop his pork spending and give that money to local soup kitchens, which are struggling in every single state to help support the people who are unemployed and have little to eat? Huh? How about that?
Not a bad idea. She can't even get her husband to quit smoking which is worse for you then eating fast food.. so.. she doesn't have a lot of room to talk. If she can't get own family on the right bath.. why the hell she thinks she can get America to as well. Yawn.
Heyford, nothing is wrong except the cost to the taxpayers for that stroll.
First Ladies do these sort of things all of the time. Ladybird did them to help beautify America. Betty Ford did them to raise breast cancer awareness. Nancy Reagan did them to help stop drug abuse. Laura Bush did them to promote reading. This First Lady does them to help promote healthier eating. All First Ladies do these events, however for some reason there seem to be right wing lunatics who think this particular First Lady should not or does not have the right to do what nearly every other First Lady has done in modern times. What is it about this particular First Lady that makes them think she's not good enough to do what the rest of the First Ladies have done? What is there about her that's different and that means she not really the legitimate First Lady of the United States? What do you hate about her in particular? Why don't you think should should do what most of the rest of the First Ladies before her have done? Why don't you accept her as the First Lady and treat her with the same respect as the ones who came before her?
I don't believe she loves this country................and never will.
She promoted healthy eating? To whom? Is there someone there who will benefit from eating locally grown organic food who will buy this stuff with food stamps?
She is promoting healthy eating to all Americans. What in the hell does it have to do with food stamps? Do you think the only people who should listen to what she has to say are on food stamps? Should the only people who treat her with respect be jus' po folk? Why do you hate this particular First lady? Did you complain when Laura Bush stopped traffic in a caravan to go to read to school children? Did you complain when Nancy Reagan did the same to for "Just say no" speeches? She is doing what all modern First Ladies have done before her, so why do you object to this particular First Lady doing what the others have done? What is different about her that makes you accept her as First Lady less?
We have the right not to like her..........
They managed to put 'Ho' and Michelle Obama in the same title...yea, I caught that....classy.
They are pretty foul.
Not just low class....but no class....
What is different about her that makes you accept her as First Lady less?
She's married to and supports an ass for a President ! Enough said !
I don't believe she loves this country................and never will.
VIVA: You're right, that's because she's a self serving, self centered individual who can't look past the nose on her face ! Enjoy your next 3 years in the white house Michelle Obama, because it will be your last for you and your "one term President" husband !
VIVA: You're right, that's because she's a self serving, self centered individual who can't look past the nose on her face ! Enjoy your next 3 years in the white house Michelle Obama, because it will be your last for you and your "one term President" husband !
What a hater.
Kim: I never said " I hated Obama ", you implied that with out my consent ! Personally, I don't hate Obama, I just don't like the SOB ! Now that's a fact you can quote me on ! So get it right..... Will ya !
I'm less forgiving. I actually do hate Obama, I hate everything he stands for. I hate the lies he has told. I hate the fact that he has divided this country to pursue a socialist agenda. I hate the fact that he rigged an election he would have won anyways in pursuit of said socialistic agenda. I hate the fact that we are at a point where this country finally elects an African American to office, and this clown risks even that. So I will honestly admit I hate the man. You can also quote me on that as well.
Taao : Damn, you're not " pulling any punches " with that post are you ! So, Please tell us how you really feel about Obama and don't hold back this time, okay ! LOL ! : - )
Yeah Taao, don't worry about being PC, just let it out.........we're here for you. I think you just hit everyone on the head with a TRUTH STICK.
I like to take democrats and Obama supporters by storm and do the one thing they have never had a clue about...honesty.
Well you sure threw it out there plenty Naked tonight.
like to take democrats and Obama supporters by storm and do the one thing they have never had a clue about...honesty.
Don't forget about those thug bastards at ACORN either !
and the Chicago sobees too...............
and the Chicago sobees too...............
VIVA - la truth ! Good one !
Bush divided the country or Obama would not have been elected so easily (not that he had much opposition) and there would not be so much hatred for him and his "policies" now.
I guess thats exactly why Americans voted in a Republican after the Clinton years too huh? Then voted him in again...isn't irony ironic?
With all the evil some think Obama carries with him, Ayers, Wright, ACORN, it's amazing that Obama was elected over a Republican. I mean, there had to be an awful lot of good people praying to the good Lord that McCain would win. Isn't that how Bush got in? Oh yeah, speaking of stolen elections... :-)
R.Donald Snyder #1.47
What in the hell does it have to do with food stamps? Do you think the only people who should listen to what she has to say are on food stamps?
"Obama, in her brief speech to the vendors and patrons, handled the affordability issue by pointing out that people who pay with food stamps would get double the coupon value at the market."
If you want to dispute the article, go for it.
Did you complain when Laura Bush stopped traffic in a caravan to go to read to school children?
No, I liked Laura. She seemed a nice lady, sweet and genuine. I never heard her say she had never in her lifetime been proud of her country until her husband was elected. This is in stark contrast to Michelle O.
Did you complain when Nancy Reagan did the same to for "Just say no" speeches?
Yes, I thought this was idiotic, and naive. I never cared for her personally because she seemed to me an elitist, though I liked President Reagan who was sincere and did not have an elitist bone in his body. Their devotion to each other was something to behold.
I do not dislike Michelle, but she leaves me cold. I think she is an elitist along with her husband. They are snobs. I like them most when they are together with the kids, and the dog, and that does bring a smile to my face. I think B. Obama is the luckiest man alive. The liberal media and his hypocrisy got him into the Presidency.
She is doing what all modern First Ladies have done before her, so why do you object to this particular First Lady doing what the others have done?
Whether I object or not depends on what the First Ladies do, and how they do it. As I said in #1.34, Pushing her own causes is fine with me. But do you seriously think the poor of D.C. or Obama's former constituents from the south side of Chicago get something out of her extolling the virtues of organic carrots and crab cakes?
Do I think a First Lady reading to children could encourage teachers and children to read more? Yes, possibly. Do I think telling kids to say "no" to drugs will prevent a single case of drug abuse? No. Do I think Michelle Obama shopping at a farmer's market will encourage people to spend ten dollars on a couple of pears, a bunch of kale, and three potatoes? No. Farmer's markets, even the non-upscale ones, are always more expensive than the grocery stores available in urban settings. Always. They also do not exist in the inner city, and poor people cannot get to them. Besides this, there is no evidence that eating foods from farmer's markets is actually more heathful at all. I've bought food from them which tasted the same as, or better than, or worse than food bought at Safeway. So what's her point? Support local farmers? Okay, sounds good, but say that, don't come up with this more healthful for you stuff. Is there evidence for this? No.
Be better to show people how to grow food in boxes for city dwellers. That'd be cool. Go Michelle.
I'm making hamburger sliders tonight.....mmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!
I'll take 4 cheese crystals and a side order of curly fries......................
This kind of arrogant slime is unsustainable. Down with Barack.
You do have to acknowledge one thing. The antics Michelle pulls do make Barak look intelligent in comparison. She is, however, the only one who seems capable of that feat.
I wonder how she ever made it through the day without a staff.........like what the rest of us go through. Is that what she learned at Princeton, Tuscan Kale 101???
This is Barack's America -- the one he's changing daily. At least The Sleeveless One is finally proud.
Quite crapping in the nation's face, Barack, and that goes for your media enablers, too.
Man, what a bizarre series of comments.
First, who was the idiot that said "managed to put "ho" in the title. First, this was the title of the article. More importantly, that little saying is from the "Farmer in the Dell." What, didn't you go to school?
Or is everything now about race with the Obamas? IF so, time he got out. Tired of idiots pulling the race card. Sheesh, can't say "niggardly," right?
As to the actual act. I found this bizarre. She's there for the opening of a health food store, a very high end health food store? Come on. They have to shut down the street, other stores, etc., etc., etc?
So she can buy some veggies? If she wants to promote "healthy eating," (huh?) there are many, many ways she could do so without such expensive publicity stunts, which is all this is, a publicity stunt.
Sure, she has the right to go out, but know what I ain't feeling sorry for her because her "life" is under a microscope. She and her husband sought the position, and if you want to play, you pay. All presidents and their families have suffered through the same.
And who is the asshat who said that she has security because of all the death threats from right wing kooks? Sheesh, grow up. All presidents have death threats. If I recall correctly all you asshatters were saying he would be dead in a few months, guess you got that wrong.
I seeded this article because it really does seem to me that the Obamas are more like, or seek to be more like rock stars than serious political people, but that's just me.
For example, Obama on Leno, Obama on all the talking heads shows. What's up with that?
Kim: I never said " I hated Obama ", you implied that with out my consent !
(1) I inferred it, not implied it.
(2) I don't need your consent.
(3) I actually need to revise my remark. Given the totally of your spewings on this thread about Michelle Obama, it's more accurate to state that youpersonally, violently and viciously hate both Michelle Obama and Barack Obama.
So get it right..... Will ya !
I just did.
There are 5-6 of these Farmers Markets in DC (not a health food store), the markets do OK I guess if they have opened that many of them. DC will be closing that block off from now through the fall whether she is there or not. Are you against Capitalism too, do you want us to tell you how much to charge for your products or how to spend your money? My wife eats at one of the markets every TUE and THUR, fresh fruit, BBQ, cake, cookies, yum!! Did she complain about living under a microscope? I missed it, I'm surprised because it does come with the position, for the whole family, elected or not apparently.
The author of this column is a political columnist, not a reporter. On Friday, in the METRO section, there was the news article by a staff writer (Donna Mills? Brown? something like that) it gave an unbiased fact based news report of the opening.
For example, Obama on Leno, Obama on all the talking heads shows. What's up with that?
Maybe there is controversial pending legislation that he wants to go direct to the American public with?
Bob:
LOL, in one post I hear about "respect" for the president, and then he appears on Leno?
Sorry, ain't buying that.
Of course she is a political columnist, so? Is that a bad thing?
What, you only want objective reporting when it's your guys in the limelight, but not the other way around?
There is so much crappy rhetoric going around as to make your head spin!
Wmolaw---Obama will be on Letterman tonight. I've DVR'd it....ain't no way I'm staying up late for either of them.
Lisa:
I swear, he thinks he's a rock star. I really believe that.
Can't you just see the show, first off is the hooker from Las Vegas who can slide down polls three times in a row, followed by Madonna, and then:
"We have a very special guest tonight, please help me welcome President Barrack Obama to the Tonight Show!"
Bizarre, totally bizarre.
I swear, he thinks he's a rock star.
Wmolaw---for sure....and it was indeed on that basis that he got elected to the White House. It was old for me during the campaign right from the "YES WE CAN!" get go.....hopefully it's just a matter of time before it gets old for the rest of Americans who want an effective President in the White House, not just someone with a big pretty smile who always has time to do the talk show circuit.
Bob:
LOL, in one post I hear about "respect" for the president, and then he appears on Leno? Sorry, ain't buying that.
He's trying to reach the populace, shockingly not everybody is glued to the news junkie shows etc, some people he will only find at Leno or American Idol - wait till you see him dance!! Why, do you think he should only be allowed to speak to certain segmants of society under controlled conditions? Curious. wmolaw, hate to break this to you but he probably doesn't care if you're buying it. I doubt you are undecided on this.
Of course she is a political columnist, so? Is that a bad thing?
She's a he. I thought you are supposed to differentiate between a news article and an opinion piece? I have no problem either way, just asking. I personally think it would have benefitted this thread if people knew what they were reading was not a news account, but most people probably don't read them anyway.
What, you only want objective reporting when it's your guys in the limelight, but not the other way around?
It wasn't reporting, he's a political columnist; something like The Political Circus, like I said I don't care, I just thought you were supposed to clarify the source. Not my thread, do what you want.
There is so much crappy rhetoric going around as to make your head spin!
You seeded an article and started a thread on NV about Michelle, what did you think you were going to get?
Bob:
Undecided about what? And, sorry, having a hard time trying to square appearing on Leno and trying "to reach a different audience." What, Playboy channel next? And, oh yes, he cares if I'm buying it and folks "like" me, that is middle class folks who work their ass off.
After all, WE"RE the ones who have to foot the bill for all the stuff coming down the pike.
I generally try to use she, normal mode for me, sorry. I thought folks would easily see it was an opinion piece, the tone is wrong from the start for a straight reporting job, unless it was Jayson Blair with the NYT>
You seeded an article and started a thread on NV about Michelle, what did you think you were going to get?
Probably right about that. Seems you can't seed anything about Obama, any of his handlers, without the same sort of vitriol.
But it can be entertaining at times.
Probably right about that. Seems you can't seed anything about Obama, any of his handlers, without the same sort of vitriol.
But it can be entertaining at times.
Yeah, slip in that she was wearing a hijab and see what you get. Kidding, just kidding.
Obama mmmm, hallowed by thy name! (Angels Sing, trumpets blow.)
Gee Guys,
What, you want me to delete even more posts!
No hijab here, that's for another seed, maybe about france.
Taao:
Yeah, there is a lot of that going on NOW.
He's the second coming! We must all bow down and accept him as our lord and personal savior! Because if we don't...we are racists!
taao:
Yeah, talking about that on another thread now.
Yup, I was on there for a bit and asked Professor Waggoner a couple questions. I liked his philosophy...it was unbiased and covered both bases very well.
Is our gracious President on TV again?
Well, as long as he doesn't interfere with my Spanish soap operas he can go to the moon and speak from there.
How about the fact that she has not been in the press lately. Her ego had to get a fix, hence the motorcade and photo opp's to the marketplace. The Obamas feel they are, and act as if, they are stars or aristocracy. It is just ridiculous.
re: #2 - Evil 1 - Indeed! Good observation! They are our American King and Queen, aren't they? Nah... Remember, folks, it is your tax dollars that pay for all of it. Is it money well spent? Does it keep our country safe?
Great "eye" for what was most probably really going on. I thought the same thing. The episode also brought to mind Princess Diana. I was/am still a big fan of Diana, but so many Americans hated that she was on every magazine cover. Of course she was rerelentlessly pursued by the paparazzi ... Michelle will never attain that level of frenzy feeding no matter what she's shopping for.
Evil 1 - #2
That's just an utterly stupid statement. She could be in the news everyday if she wanted to for a photo-op! All she would have to do is say the word and the press would follow her and the girls walking the dog, going to Betty's Boutique or simply reading a book sitting under a tree on the lawn.
MoonCrow - 2.2 I loved me some Princess Di! Just something about the woman. I don't know how on earth you would bring her up when talking about Michelle unless of course you are jealous of the fact she may in fact become (or already is) as famous as Di. (Wasn't it Jackie O comparisons a while back?). And to say Michelle will never attain the feeding frenzy from the papparazzi...........
If you think Michelle (or any famous person) would want that, is absolutely ludicrous. As if to say the papparazzi chasing you at every possible moment is something to strive towards or maybe to 'prove' you are the most popular woman in the world. Give it a rest. Assinine.
And how, pray tell, did you ascertain that Americans hated her on all the magazine covers? That is an obvious untruth or they (the magazines) wouldn't have kept plastering her on the front of all of them if they weren't selling, now would they?! I know I snatched up my special edition glossy covers.
You are ridiculous. He is running things while George Bush was on the golf course. you people are so short sighted. I hate the fact that soilderes even died for you people, you all deserve to be in bondage and slaves to the Chinese. It is coming soon enough.
Heyford:
Evil 1 - #2
That's just an utterly stupid statement. She could be in the news everyday if she wanted to for a photo-op! All she would have to do is say the word and the press would follow her and the girls walking the dog, going to Betty's Boutique or simply reading a book sitting under a tree on the lawn.
If you truly believe your statement and cannot correlate it to my post then I suggest you get a mirror and take a long hard look into it so you can see where the real stupidity lies.
No need to look, he can just see himself in the Fox reflection on TV. His kids and friends see foolisness everyday.
A talk about healthy food.....hmmmm.... Michelles bod is not a model plate by far, neither is Mr. Boney Obamas, not the two to take tips from. They make a mockery of everything they do. Always wanting attention and always making an ass out of themselves.
Always wanting attention and always making an ass out of themselves.
You noticed that to ?! I'm glad I wasn't the only one who also thought that about them !
What in the hell are you talking about? You know it is possible to take too much NyQuil. I'm just sayin'..............
R.D.Snyder : Then what the hell is your excuse ?!
They managed to put 'Ho' and Michelle Obama in the same title...yea, I caught that....classy.
netprophet: You're reaching pretty low with that post ! Everyone should know by now you're assuming nonsense !
Not reaching as low as the ass who wrote the article. Hi! Ho.
Taxinum:
Ummm, I would consider what you say before you say it. I suspect Obama has ALREADY played more golf than GW did in his entire 8 years. But, you really don't care about that now, do you.
It's never about Obama, it's always about GW. Kind of sad how so many lefties just can't move forward.
It has nothing to do with them moving forward. Its failed Democrat tactics 101 and 102. It doesn't matter what we do, we're Democrats...we are above the laws of man. Then 102 which states 2 + 1 = 4 or more precisely wrong + wrong = right. As long as its the Democrat who is wrong that is.
Get you mileage gossipers it won't last.
ellie you actually ask good questions. And it would be great to get the answers before you jump on this none issue or scandal which ever it turns out to be. Please fact check all.
Well, by all means, let me hear what you think, isakb2. Seriously, there is a reason for this little escapade and if it doesn't come to light soon, people will be left to believe the worst.
I have no dog in this hunt. Considering the source and the fact that this is a snarky commentary about First Lady Michelle Obama, I have no interest in joining in. I thought that some of your questions are legit and if you are curious, by all means follow your nose. If the facts support your suspicions take your wacks. Be sure to fact check.
I have no dog in this hunt. Considering the source and the fact that this is a snarky commentary about First Lady Michelle Obama, I have no interest in joining in. I thought that some of your questions are legit and if you are curious, by all means follow your nose. If the facts support your suspicions take your wacks. Be sure to fact check.
So ellie have you no comment? You think this is going anywhere?
Sorry, didn't know you were awaiting one. I think I've made my comments in some other threads, though. Essentially, WTH? As little clear-your-head, I-gotta-get-outta-here-and-just-breathe-some-normal-air goes, this was just weird. What's wrong with Camp David? Or just leaving town for a less congested market in some out of the way place?
Ellie:
I applaud you for even addressing posts #3.2 (#3.3) and #3.4 considering they make no sense and in no way address the article at hand. From reading the posts all I can conclude is that the poster (isakbz-1287068) has some sort of personal issue with you. In my opinion, and this is just my opinion, he is attacking you in hopes of creating a confrontation. This would be a major mistake on his part as from the context of his posts, if you were to consider intelligence to be ammunition he appears to be totally unarmed and it would be and entirely unjust and unfair altercation.
Get you mileage gossipers it won't last.
You're right ! But " Food for thought ", the Obama's will continue to do asinine things through out Barrack's presidency that will give us plenty of things to talk trash about them ! Just sit back and watch those two clowns continue with their bullsh*t !
Here's what I don't get. Where do people who are not even on speaking terms with the President's wife, Mrs Obama, the First Lady of the United States of America, get off calling her by her first name?
The President of the United States is entitled to be addressed as President Obama or Mr President. His wife should be entitled to be addressed as the First Lady or Mrs Obama, not "Michelle"
In fact, those who are guilty of this emit a stinking odor of bias that can be detected miles off. Now when these same people become First Lady or First Husband they can walk to the market if the Secret Service allows them to do so. Otherwise they should allow the current First Lady the privilege managing her affairs as White House security protocol prescribes.
Laura Bush was treated as Laura.
Rank on Rank
not "Michelle"
True, I would not like to call her by her first name - I usually address only people I like (or people who are clearly benefiting our country) by their first names. Many people who like her (the left-leaning MSM networks, the anti-American terrorists, corrupt ACORN organizers, etc) do call her by her forename.
Laura Bush was treated as Laura
That's because Laura was a nice lady, who clearly cared about America and its citizens.
That's more than than I can say about the America-hating ugly-hearted hag, currently married to obama, who seems to care far more about spending as much of our money as possible & about photo ops than about helping America.
Corie, Laura Bush is a nice lady, as you say though I doubt she would say the same of you.
That's more than than I can say about the America-hating ugly-hearted hag, currently married to obama,
though I doubt she would say the same of you
Neither would the friends of obama - the anti-America terrorists, Chicago criminals, and other slimeballs that have long considered obama & his wife as 'one of their own'...
Rank on Rank:
What the hell are you talking about ? Trying to make an issue where there is none?
Hell, Laura was called Laura, Nancy, Nancy, Rosalynn, Rosalynn.
Or are the Obamas royalty now where Americans can ONLY refer to them in certain ways?
Sheesh.
Actually, wmolaw, the first ladies were usually referred to by their first and last names as Laura Bush, Nancy Reagan... If you said Nancy no one would know who you were talking about. If I said George would you think George Bush when I am referring to George Clooney? President and First Lady, President and Mrs., First Couple Barak and Michelle Obama. Women no longer need to be referred to as Mrs. as a stand alone title.
Yeah its not like anybody in a political forum that heard the name Hillary would actually think for a minute that people were speaking of anyone other than Hillary Duff perhaps?
Possible...not likely but possible. Depends on the age of the thinker. :-)
I'd like to make an intelligent comment, but my mouth is hanging open.
I haven't been on Newsvine much as of late. To click on this was a pitiful mistake. If I were Michelle I would be trotting out and buying organic also. Hopefully natural selection will weed out the willfully ignorant soon. They are constantly trying to pull mankind down to primitive behavior as the comments placed so far illustrate so very non eloquently.
He is the point. She has a staff that are costing us millions a year. Send them out for produce. Do you realize how much it costs the taxpayer for the first family to go out in public?
Hell she is going to McDonald's, Broadway, and the Farmers market.
MARK---why HAVE staff do this WHEN you can GET a PHOTO OP and SPEND OUR money!!
RE-DISTRIBUTE the WEALTH!!! LMAO!wonder if they planted any HEMP!!
jscusmc69 LT U.S.C.D.F
Oh yeah forgot his campaign pledge to spread the wealth around. Thanks for the reminder jscusms .... How stuid of me.
I'd like to make an intelligent comment, but my mouth is hanging open.
I'll make one then.
Ya'll need to GET A LIFE! SO WHAT the first lady took a photo op to promote shopping local...aka at a farmers market......SO WHAT she was guarded by the secret service...ITS THERE JOB! Seriously,...do you people have nothing better to do then make stupid snarky comments about the first Lady being TOO ARISTOCRATIC...or the President being a fascist, communist, socialist, Muslim who conspired before his birth to change his birth certificate...knowing he would run for president....seriously??? Stay on World Nut Daily and let us have newsvine back to have honest debates about real (NON FOX GENERATED) news.
Ok, I conceded they all need PR. But, really are we to believe that the First Lady buys the white house produce. They what a two floors in one of the wings dedicated to food prep in the white house.
If you are going to spend our tax money on PR then at least make it a good one.
Here is one advise.
Our First Lady Michelle Obama was a success lawyer with about $300,000/yr salary.
Then, Our First Lady Michelle Obama belongs to the battered women and not shopping for food by the ounce.
Kim:
English is Det's second language.
Stop being so damned racist and ethnocentric, will you?
Kim:
Report all you want. Seems to me that your post is the one which should be reported, in fact, given my abilities here, deleted. Both of them.
Kim:
I rely on you to do so if you believe I am out of line. Again, deleted.
Wow , that some scoop you got their what a "scandal". Fresh food? My god, how elitist !
How dare they have good taste in food. Like Nobama and mustard on his burger!
Yawn. 8 years of you pool pissers. Do we ever attack a sitting first lady? I wonder if First Lady Obama killed someone in her past, we wouldn't hear the end of it.
I'm glad my side doesn't give this pettifogging such credence.
Hilary Clinton could probably tell you a bit about being attacked as first lady, and I'm sure Nancy Reagan could.
Nancy Reagan has been verbally assaulted , just ask Too $hort.
Hilary Clinton could probably tell you a bit about being attacked
Hillary Clinton was in fact attacked by this same ridiculous author (Dana Milbank) last month and he was forced to apologize...
Milbank said he couldn't reveal to whom President Barack Obama would serve a drink called "Mad B---- Beer." That line was followed by a brief picture of Clinton.
Washington Post Slammed for 'Tasteless, Sexist' Clinton Joke
Reds:
The funny thing about Hillary is how absent she has been. I will bet you she never expected to be the INVISIBLE sec of state. But she is. Amazing.
Hillary who?
Hillary Clinton has been plenty visable but the attention has been on ACORN, 9-12, Michelle's speech about healthy eating and support of local farmers, all that really important stuff.
SW:
Really? What has she done lately?
Here is a quick Live search, all stories within the last hour:
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/09/22/2009092200271.html
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-09-22-voa9.cfm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090922/wl_asia_afp/usafghanistannatounrestmilitary
Newsvine search last 3 days:
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2009/09/20/3292107-japan-may-provide-more-aid-to-afghanistan
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2009/09/20/3292471-obama-cuban-mega-concert-doesnt-hurt-us-outreach
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2009/09/21/3298782-us-looks-to-china-for-nkorea-progress
Certainly no indepth search but for less than 3 minutes seems she is doing something. I don't follow her around so can't give you a play by play on her activities.
I'm absolutely sure that Hillary has done quite a bit lately...just as with her White House years...not a lot she would like to see made public.
We are talking politics right? So it is Hillary Clinton rather than Hillary Duff when we say Hillary right? Or is it Hillary Swank? These things are so confusing!
taao:
You know what amazes me, a HUGE first amendment case is being argued before SCOTUS, I post a seed about it, ZERO hits.
Post a seed about Michelle shopping, and you get 370 and still counting.
This place is weird.
wmolaw
This place is weird.
HUGE understatement, but I have noticed that the Obama supporter base here as well as in the polls seems to be declining as well. So there is hope and change in that understatement as well lol.
No, we're still here. We've just gotten tired of having conversations with dining room tables.
Oh I wasn't speaking of you. I was speaking of the ones that actually realized the Titanic was sinking and had common sense enough to actually get off the boat.
Those were the rats. We didn't want them. They're the ones that chewed the holes in the boat but she ain't sinking. taao, your phone is ringing. I think it's Sarah.
Sarah Conner.
I actually would prefer Sarah Conner over Obama, unlike him she actually seems real. Plus I'd love to meet Summer Glau she's hot!
So what? Who cares? Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill!
You'd better be glad you were not in the traffic jam as I'd bet you wouldn't like it once you found out why there was a traffic jam in the first place.
Let's face it, if you want to be the First Family, you change daily habits. You don't continue to live your life like you once did. It's part of the territory. You have to respect others by not closing down streets, causing traffic jams and spending tax dollars that cost thousands for that veggie trip. How about some common sense. Does she text and drive a car too?
Actually if I found out why there was a traffic jam for this I'd be glad that the Secret Service is doing such a good job protecting the First Family from the right wing lunatics out there. Good job! She's the First Lady, not a prisoner of the White House. She's not confined to quarters so more power to her.
Exactly Linda the first family should be locked up in the white house! Until the presidents term is up they should remain indoors, god forbid they act like humans and leave the compound!! Why should they spend my hard earned tax dollars getting food?!. /sarcasm
R. Donald Snyder
So what? Who cares? Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill
Finally... sanity rules. Sums up this whole seed rather well.
There seems to be a lot of people on this thread who don't care, but keep right on posting comments. hehheh
Donald:
True, it is a bit of a moutain out of a molehill, but it is indicative.
Like Billy boy shutting down an airport to get a haircut, etc., etc. It is the flipping attitude that kind of grates.
Can someone please teach me how to delete a double post post?
No. No. Can't can't be be done done. Sorry. Sorry.
;-)
;-)
Is this really out of the ordinary in terms of security measures to protect the presidents family. I imagine security has been tight for all presidents and their families.
Also 'Hi-Ho'? Really? It seems like race baiting to me. Could potentially be read as calling the first lady a ho, but ambiguous enough that when someone inevitably calls them on it, they can @!$%# about liberals playing the race card.
Background for the literary reference: The Farmer in the Dell
Actually all previous administrations have sent someone out to buy the food since they have people for that.
One pound of Sea Bass (favorite of the former Secretary of the U.N.) $25.00.
Actually all previous administrations have sent someone out to buy the food since they have people for that.
But presumably prior first ladies have left the White House on occasion. Farmers markets are places to buy groceries, but they are also places to catch up with your neighbors, take the air, see whats come into season and sample the produce to see what you like. It's not only a trip to buy groceries. Michelle Obama has the same right to enjoy the experience as anyone else, and it's not unreasonable that security precautions be taken. So I ask again, in the context of prior administrations safety precautions, is this unreasonable?
Also I'm well aware of "The Farmer in the Dell" that's why I said that it could be taken as calling her a Ho. If I wasn't aware of the song, I'd assume they were just calling her a Ho. The point stands, I'm not saying it's a racist title, I'm saying it was chosen so that the Washington Post could @!$%# about liberals playing the race card when someone inevitably takes the bait.
Anyone know what a dell is? How would it relate to the farmers market?
- small valley: a small, usually wooded valley or hollow
Kind of a stretch from Hi-Ho the Derry-O to the Farmers Market.
Let's say you're preparing dinner and you realize with dismay that you don't have any certified organic Tuscan kale. What to do?
Here's how Michelle Obama handled this very predicament Thursday afternoon:
That is a big, fat lie from the very beginning of the article. The First Lady was not preparing dinner, had no predicament to handle, and did not go on a "little shopping trip." This was scheduled well in advance and the mayor also spoke before the crowd.
"I can't imagine there's been a day in the history of our country when people have been more excited about farmers markets," Mayor Adrian Fenty, Obama's warm-up act, told the crowd.
This should shame some of the people making insulting comments here but it won't. They look for anything to use against President Obama or his wife regardless of truth. The hatred and disrespect for our president is disgusting and has nothing to do with politics.
The hatred and disrespect for our president is disgusting and has nothing to do with politics.
Agreed SW!
What:
Sure, everything now is "race" baiting. Come on, it's from a fricking nursery rhyme and fits the scenario.
WaPo is not a very conservative paper, but I am guessing you knew that.
SW mIssouri:
Oh, please. What, are we supposed to bow down and genuflect? Me, I kind of like the rough and tumble and, frankly, after what GW, his wife, and his kids were put through NO ONE could ever say that the Obama's are being treated disrespectfully, at least not in comparison.
What's good for the goose ...., remember?
WTF, wmolaw? Race baiting? How many people under 40 know the nursery rhyme? And what does it have to do with a farmers market? You called it a health food store in the early comments so don't come off so rightious in the connection. The title is from the opinion piece this was seeded from so maybe you don't get the subtly of the "Hi-Ho" he used along with the "little" shopping trip.
Not a very conservative paper? Did I say anything about conservative or liberal? Or bowing down? Or Bush? Oh yeah, all Obama supporters are liberals and blame everything on Bush so you were just trying to beat me to it.
Some people don't have the sense God gave a goose. I know an opinion piece from a news report. This seed was BS and not meant to be taken as fact.
SW,
It's from Farmer in the Dell, come on, give me a break! What, do we have to scrub the entire English language, and all other languages now to be sure that NONE of them have any POTENTIALLY offensive words?
You are reading too much into it, because of your bias. Hell, that never entered my mind. It was an article about organic food farmer's market, the title seemed appropriate.
Do you really think WaPo would have let it through otherwise? I don't think so.
wmolaw A bit extreem over one comment? This was an opinion piece which allows the author more room than an actual article.
What, do we have to scrub the entire English language, and all other languages
The only one who mentioned organics was the author who was trying to emphasize the elitist Michelle rather than the First Lady Michelle Obama:
It was an article about organic food farmer's market,
Facts are facts, eat 'em and weap!
This article from Huffington Post does not mention "organic" one time. Not one time!
This one is from yahoo news but is AP and does not say organic. Some of artical is same as HP but not all. This is also a link from Dana's article to Politico.
This is the BEST from your source, WaPo, which also does not mention organic. This one is NOT from Dana.
This whole story is made up bs: she made an appearance at the farmer's market because it was its first day open. It was a scheduled appearance; she made remarks about people having access to fresh food. She did not just go out shopping; obviously she doesn't do the grocery shopping for the WH (like any other First Lady).The "shopping" she did at the farmer's market was a gesture.
It is both amusing and pathetic how all the right wing's arguments against the Obamas are based on lies. It takes about 30 seconds to discredit any of the nonsense they spew.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/From_Farm_to_First_Table/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/17/michelle-obama-buys-groce_n_290522.html
Gee, now, who could possibly be to blame for all that heavy security around the First Lady? Two possibilities.
a. A woman who wanted to buy some vegetables from a farmstand within blocks of her residence.
b. The nut-cases who have been making constant death threats against that woman and her two children as well as her husband.
I doubt the security was her idea. The Secret Service is charged with protecting her, and they don't want anything to happen on their watch. And they know what kind of gun-toting crazies are out there.
No, no, no. You misunderstand (at least you misunderstand me). My question is not whether she should be protected wherever she goes -- of course she should be.
My question is why the F.L. needs to go buy veggies? There didn't seem to be any agenda attached to this little outing. And, to just get a wild hare and knowingly inconvenience tons of people just because you're Jonesing for an organic exotic variety of hoity toity kale is kinda narcissistic. So, what gives?
My question is why the F.L. needs to go buy veggies?
Why not? She's the First Lady, not the First Prisoner. I just don't see the problem here.
Well, see the article, or the #12 post excerpt...
I read the article and still think, so what. Making a big deal out of this is beyond silly and petty.
Come on Tre, our First Lady does not belong to the kitchen and buying food from a very expensive market.
What about California vegetables?
I think there trying to turn the Californian farmland into desert.
Anyone knows if the water was turn on by the President in the Valley where the farmers are suffering due to the protection of a 2" fish?
http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/local&id=7020050&rss=rss-kfsn-article-7020050
T-Rex:
I assume you are purposefully not understanding. And, come on, what no other president has ever received death threats? LOL.
donald:
In some ways she is the "first" prisoner. That's the job description, one she knew before she and her husband threw their hat into the ring. You play, you pay. She CAN'T be a normal person any longer, everything she does has HUGE costs attendant to it.
So, when you spend that kind of money it better be a worthwhile exercise. At least that's the way I look at it.
Instead of having your hair done at the shop, you get the hair dresser to COME to the White House, natch? Little things like that are what defines a person, and how they think of others.
Here's how Michelle Obama handled this very predicament Thursday afternoon:
The Secret Service and the D.C. police brought in three dozen vehicles and shut down H Street, Vermont Avenue, two lanes of I Street and an entrance to the McPherson Square Metro station. They swept the area, in front of the Department of Veterans Affairs, with bomb-sniffing dogs and installed magnetometers in the middle of the street, put up barricades to keep pedestrians out, and took positions with binoculars atop trucks. Though the produce stand was only a block or so from the White House, the first lady hopped into her armored limousine and pulled into the market amid the wail of sirens.
Then, and only then, could Obama purchase her leafy greens. "Now it's time to buy some food," she told several hundred people who came to watch. "Let's shop
This is a molehill?
Only Obammerites would consider this 'oh-hum' activity, with the spending as acceptable? They are going to single-handedly break the White House Budget Record of Ridiculous Spending.
Waiting for some indignant person to use the only mode of defense... blame Bush.
Pssstt.... this has nothing to do with skin pigmentation, but with mindsets that are NOT with the countries failing economy but all about themselves.
Yes. It is a molehill. Tempest in a teapot. Much ado about nothing.
Britlassy Only Obammerites would consider this 'oh-hum' activity, with the spending as acceptable? They are going to single-handedly break the White House Budget Record of Ridiculous Spending
Are you talking about Nancy Reagan...you must be, you just got your administrations confused...you're excused.
Britlassy, did you read the rest of the article? You said:
Only Obammerites would consider this 'oh-hum' activity, with the spending as acceptable? They are going to single-handedly break the White House Budget Record of Ridiculous Spending.
The article, poorly written as it was, did quote the mayor as the "warm up" speaker for Mrs. Obama. This was a preplanned speaking event. She did not just pop out to the market to get some greens for supper.
It is her money, she can spend it however she wants. We never had to listen to pathetic stories about the Bushes eating Chilean Sea Bass or Filet Mignon. The president makes sevaeral hundred thousand dollars a year, of course they don't shop at the I.G.A.
I think the real problem the right has is that there is too much security for one of them to take a shot at one of the Obamas. Cry about it some more.
Sorry, the menus at the Bushes WH was mainly Chili, nothing in comparisson with the late Jacqueline Onasis-Kennedy.
Mad:
It is her money, she can spend it however she wants
Huh? Remember My Cousin Vinny?
"You on drugs?"
Come on. As if no other administration has ever gone out. I know for a fact that the secret service was more than happy to be able to relax watch on the Bush twins. So, I would bet to say if I dig, and probably not that much, I could come up with some really lame a$$ stuff other administrations have done. But see since the right wants to pi$$ and moan, b!tch and complain about Obama or his other have, why don't you just come out and say, you do this because he is of color. That's saying it lightly. Pull your pillow case of your head, drop the sheet from your shoulders and say it. We don't like this BLACK POTUS. You can do it. Or maybe your not that bold.
Ding ding ding ding!!! We have a winner. First one to pull the R card on this board.
Hey, let's start a new game to see how many posts it takes the Obamabots to make the racism accusation on completely unrelated topics!
You could even make a list of who does it the most, and score them accordingly.
Ooooh. Good idea.
Horse Hockey. Not unrelated. Stop the wind from whistling through your ears and reread what was said above.
And followed up by a personal attack, too. Wanna go for the trifecta?
Personal attack. Talk about blowing things out of proportion. My God. You haven't seen a personal attack. Doesn't know the difference between a personal attack and a suggestion. Oh boy.
I have discovered when a liberal cannot justify a situation, the race card is pulled out to change the subject. Don't they realize that won't work anymore. If this country is so racist, how in the world did an Afro-American get elected.?
Your unbelievable, sad but true.
Good point, Darlene. I, too, want to be unbelievable and sad if it means I am telling the truth like Darlene.
But see since the right wants to pi$$ and moan, b!tch and complain about Obama or his other have, why don't you just come out and say, you do this because he is of color. That's saying it lightly. Pull your pillow case of your head, drop the sheet from your shoulders and say it.We don't like this BLACK POTUS. You can do it. Or maybe your not that bold.
Doesn't know the difference between a personal attack and a suggestion. Oh boy.
If I am not mistaken, THIS qualifies as a racist attack from a different angle, but a racist remark none the same.
If I meant BLACK =bad= prejudice=discrimination=
I would have said it...
I MEANT his spending, I MEANT his wife's demeanor of Lady Dictator NOT their colour. HE is proving to be the ongoing joke and increasing devastation of this country, along with the Civil unrest, and NOW people are WANTING To become segregated again, should tell you "change is not working"
Maybe look in the mirror and say ---3 times---CANDY MAN--CANDY MAN--CANDY MAN!!!
Ellie:
Actually the first "race" card comment, though disguised, was pulled WAY above, with the suggestion that the tile, since it had "ho" in it was racist.
Sheesh, for these folks it's all about race, that excuses everything and makes anyone who disagrees with the ONE racist.
Pitiful. Pretty soon it will be a hate crime to even dispute your president. Many, including Jimmy, "I'm a dip@!$%#" Cahter has already intimated as much.
So much for freedom in this Country.
Yes, I responded to that one, too (was it posted prior to this one? Hm....I'll have to check). Well, I do hope the loser in the referee's decision won't go all Serena. The very idea that this event has anything to do with racism is amusing.
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If I referred to Obama as a mauve or teal man would that be a racist remark? Silly me, of course it would! If I would simply call him a man I would be a racist.
Damn, it's a wonder that you haven't pitched a b!tch that the POTUS didn't get a lighter colored dog than they did.
She was not out shopping-it was a scheduled appearance to mark the opening of the farmer's market. She made remarks to the crowd, and then "shopped" as a gesture. I guess its very elitist to advocate for people having access to fresh produce. Obviously she does not do the grocery shopping for the WH (she is the First Lady, after all).Ms. Obama earned plenty of money before becoming First Lady, which she is free to spend as she pleases, even if it's the bougiest, foofiest, most expensive food available. The salary paid to President Obama is also theirs to spend as they please. These are the kinds of appearances that First Ladies traditionally make- community and family focused affairs. And whether you like it or not, any time any POTUS and family travel anywhere, there are going to be traffic jams and crowds.
Just another example of manufactured outrage on the part of right wing cry babies.
Just another example of manufactured outrage on the part of right wing cry babies.
At least this time she worn a sweater and had her arms covered. (sarcasm)
Just another example of manufactured outrage on the part of right wing cry babies.
Thank you for making some sense Jennifer. I swear some people will throw a fit if the Obama's smiled the wrong way.
Get a life people.
Now see, Jennifer, that would have made sense to me, but it's not how the WaPo (seeded) article read at ALL:
The first lady had encouraged Freshfarm Markets, the group that runs popular farmers markets in Dupont Circle and elsewhere, to set up near the White House, and she helped get the approvals to shut down Vermont Avenue during rush hour on Thursdays. But the result was quite the opposite of a quaint farmers market. Considering all the logistics, each tomato she purchased had a carbon footprint of several tons.
Seriously, it would have made more sense and been "greener" for her to motorcade or helicopter in to their normal location. And the author's point about the fine line between promoting the market and appearing to be elitist (remember Barack's unfortunate arugula remarks) is a good one. If she's going to be the organic food promoter in chief, I can get behind that, but I don't believe she is for that very (elitist) reason.
We have one at the present time..........we are just worred about keeping it that way.
Elle:
As usual, quite sensible.
Jennifer:
It is just indicative. She was hawking the opening of an organic store, closing streets to do so, etc., etc.
Wonder how much the corp that owns this store contributed to the dem party?
and of course she is free to spend her money, but as I said before, you think she PAID for all the attendant costs of this little outing? Please.
wmolaw: It's a Farmers Market. Do you know what that is? The farmers, in this case from Chesapeake I think, bring their wares and set it out on tables for sale. There is all kinds of stuff, fruit, veggies, honey, salsa, jewelry, meat, seafood, carvings whatever. I did not go to this one but my wife goes to one sponsored by the same co. The vendors rent their tables. They close the block so the vendors and customers don't get run over, as they will be doing through the fall. The city of DC is promoting these markets to go along with Eastern Market.
What attendant costs? SS is detailed and salaried, the thimble of gas to go a couple of blocks? What else?
Bob:
Did you read the article? Seems not.
wmolaw - yeah but I also read the news account in the Washington Post and I'd been listening to it on the radio, so I had a little more background than your fluff piece, that's what you get when you turn to a Political columnist with an agenda for your news.
wmolaw - Seems you are the only one who did not read the article.
Bob: Did you read the article? Seems not.
If you seed something it is your responsibility to know if it is a news article or opinion. It is your responsibility to know what is in the article. It is also your responsibility to treat your readers with respect. You are failing on all counts. I understand you are a lawyer. That means you have at least a college education. Act like you have at least a college education.
SW:
What was the purpose of her appearance? To hawk for the owners of the Farmer's markets? What's up with that @!$%#? Was the owner a big Obama supporter maybe?
What next, will she start wearing Nike swooshes all over like Federer? Did Nike contribute to Obama?
And shove it buddy, don't need idiotic ad hominems from some dank skank on the Vine. If you understand I'm a lawyer then you know that I have at least a J.D. What's your education?
When you can't argue fact you can always count on insult to prove your point.
And shove it buddy, don't need idiotic ad hominems from some dank skank on the Vine. If you understand I'm a lawyer then you know that I have at least a J.D. What's your education?
This article talks about the planning and applying for the permit:
Tuesday, 08 September 2009 source
Building on her reputation as an advocate for healthy eating, America's first lady, Michelle Obama, has reportedly submitted a permit application for a weekly farmers' market just blocks from the White House.
I have yet to use name calling as a tactic. It would seem that education and intelligence are not synonymous. By the way, it's homonyms.
Note, SW:
I was responding to your ad hominem, or don't you even realize when you are throwing ad hominems anymore? Just become the way you interact, you don't even notice it anymore?
I understand you are a lawyer. That means you have at least a college education. Act like you have at least a college education.
Natch?
By the way, it's homonyms.
LOL, and you're questioning MY education? That is laughable.
In linguistics, a homonym is one of a group of words that share the same spelling and the same pronunciation but have different meanings, usually as a result of the two words having different origins. The state of being a homonym is called homonymy.
You need to look up the logical fallacy called "ad hominem," and learn a bit.
Thanks for the laugh though, there is nothing more hilarious than someone pretending intelligence and education on the Vine being hoist on their own petard.
SW Mule,
You are giving a bad show of arguing with the seeder.
What else is coming?
Sorry, I use spell check. I already questioned your education.
determined0a1 At least I use facts and links in my arguments which is more than our seeder. She would not resort to name calling, as she does further down the line, if I was giving such a bad show. What's next? Hominy, with a big slab of smoked country ham and peach cobbler for desert.
Almost forgot, thanks for the apology. It was really big of you. Education and class.
And shove it buddy, don't need idiotic ad hominems from some dank skank on the Vine.
SW mule,
The seeder is a He.
And I have the honor to "know" him for a long time now, he belongs to our group of New York Time Refugees that joined the NV in a block and Dr. JFXGillis is our leader.
We have conservatives, liberals, communist, Dems, sharpest knives in the drawer and a simpleton like moi .
I respect the man, the lawyer, the family man.
Oh! Funny I assumed he was a she when he said:
I know, as I said before I generally refer to all as "she." I will stop it.
I especially think it funny because he, wmolaw accused another of not reading the article where there is a large pic of the author, Dana, who is a man, yet he, wmolaw thought Dana was a woman. Of course he, wmolaw, said he generally refers to all as 'she.' So I figured all people could be referred to as 'she' including wmolaw.
SW:
Didn't bother me.
Figure out the difference between ad hominem and homonym yet?
homogenous? hominids? harmonies? What was the question? Oh yeah, add ham'n'eggs. I got it. BTW, as you can tell from my pic, well maybe you can't tell, I'm a she. Don't let that fool you, I still like hominy.
I believe you all of the right should read #1.5 just alittle closer. It may sink in, I know it's difficult but if you try hard, it may sink in. There still is hope for you.
I think you mean #15, where Jennifer explains what this was really about.
So now it becomes "We the tax payer gets to pay for advertising of a local market by First Lady"
And I cannot believe we are making this a right/left issue. Michelle Obama is no longer as free as she use to be, that is a fact whether you like it or not. She knew upon entering this territory that life would not be the same as it once was. She is not a prisoner but a highly guarded political figurehead. She is NOT allowed to go any where unattended.
No, #1.5 is what I mean. Read it, it's the one that has been collapsed. It's not that difficult to figure out. Scroll up till you see it. You know, right there in front of you. I can't do it for you, you need to do this for yourself. Take a deep breath, scroll upward. Sendlo. Quit listening to Glenn and Rush, do some self healing.
Sorry, I honestly thought you meant #15. I could not decipher #1.5. It sounded like gardening tips.
Easy mistake Sendlo.
#15 was informative and useful while #1.5 was a waste of pixels, but you know what they say about trying to be helpful. “No good deed ... etc. etc” :-)
"Here's something to think about: How come you never see a headline like 'Psychic Wins Lottery'?"
"For the first time ever, overweight people outnumber average people in America. Doesn't that make overweight the average then? Last month you were fat, now you're average - hey, let's get a pizza!"
I've noticed lately that Michelle has been .... rather absent on expressing her opinions on "issues" ... keeping a low profile I guess. Maybe she's bored. The article, as related, comes across as being all about Michelle ... and her spontaneous decision to fill the pantry at the White House.
Eating organic is not just a wise choice, it is a privilege and an extravagance for many people in this country ... like the single moms trying to make ends meet and being to forced to op for macaroni & cheese or hot dogs to help feed the family or the homeless veteran looking for his next meal at a shelter or soup kitchen. Kind'a makes one wonder how much in touch she is with main stream America ... just a thought.
Personally ... if I had been in Michelle's shoes ... I would have sent a staff person to make the purchases or even better, ordered online for home delivery. I mean who's going to deliver crappy stuff to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?
There was probably regular priced produce at the stand but the author decided to highlight the higher priced organics and the yarn (not sure who he thinks eats yarn). Organics are more expensive as they are usually grown in smaller quantities with greater hands-on care.
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I am interested in knowing if Bo has to eat green only.
Missouri:
Either way, "organic" food is expensive, even if it's not really 'organic' but just called organic.
Is that really the way to "eat healthy?"
I love how the Democrats on this seed have demonstrated the Obama shuffle so well. Its all about "organic food". It has nothing to do on the real tragedy..of how she went about it, when the White House does not have people who could have gone to the market for Michelle Obama causing less fanfare, saved untold amounts of money, and inconvenienced a lot less people. All this was, was more Obama sensationalism from the White Houses circus. From that awesome and daring magician Obama..."Ok in my left hand I have...no, no, no do not look at my right hand, STOP LOOKING AT MY RIGHT HAND! Good, in my left hand I have..."
Michelle Obama on a trip to purchase a bunch of Tuscan kale - $25,000.00
The cost of sending a White House worker to do the same thing - $30.00
The Obama's once again making a**es out of themselves in public - Priceless!
taao: She was invited by the Farmers Market and the City of DC to speak at the opening - she then supported the venture by shopping since she was there anyway.
Hey any excuse will do won't it Bob. I'm so happy you are comfortable with it. Because again thats whats really important isn't it.
wmolaw, Does a grocery store carry organics? Do they carry non-organics? Do the organics cost more? Does a person have to buy organics to eat healthy? Is it really that hard? Do you have any idea what a farmers market is?
Either way, "organic" food is expensive, even if it's not really 'organic' but just called organic.
When I was very young my family lived in the city. Early Saturday mornings we went to the farmers market and bought bushels of apples, peaches, green beans and potatoes. Mom would can what we would not eat right away. The food was fresh, cheaper than the store, you got to talk with the farmer who grew the stuff. You knew where your food came from. Now we hardly know what country it was grown in or how long ago it was picked. Maybe you don't understand all this because you were not exposed to a simple life.
SW:
Do you even know what organics are? Hell, those veggies you and your mom bought weren't organic.
This was an ORGANIC issue, and thus more expensive. Hell, I already seeded a link to a site which describes it. Come on, get with the program.
Hell, "exposed" to the simple life, you have no clue.
Did I say we were looking for organics? Back in the 60s we didn't have to worry about chemical fertilizers and pesticides from local farmers. We washed the apple and watched out for the worm. This was NOT an organic issue. This is about fresh, locally grown, know the farmer, ask questions issue. This article, "Hi-Ho..." by Dana the opinionated bastard is the only one I have found that says "organic." Perhaps you should follow your advice.
Come on, get with the program. you have no clue.
Great story, I'm glad the First Family is eating so healthy...this should be a lesson for all the overwieght tea baggers I saw on Fox, they could really use more baby arugula and less Budweiser.
Michael Moore could use your advise also, Barney, Wright, et al.
Maybe...but I wasn't talking about them, or Rush or Army et al.
Rodney:
Right, sure, right. And what you doing watching Fox anyway? Thought that was anathema to Obama supporters.
As to "organic" foods, no evidence that it is ANY better than conventional, though it sure as hell is more expensive!
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/organic-food/NU00255/NSECTIONGROUP=2
at least she is acting like a normal person. not afaird to go outside of the fish bowl. being active with normal people.
I would not be afraid to go outside either if I had armed bodyguards, police to block off an entire street, a store cleared of people for me and bomb sniffing dogs.
It was the ideal scenario for ordering in — except I had defrosted an expensive organic chicken breast. And two ears of summer corn were shriveling in the produce drawer
It's a farmers market. In our small town, an entire public parking area is closed each Thursday during the summer and fall to allow for the farmers to set up...it is a good thing. This article is silly and misleading. She didn't just flit out one afternoon with her armored motorcade to get some lettuce. This was an event, which drew 300 people to shop and support the market and draw attention to the benefits of buying and eating local, fresh foods. Otherwise known as a "good cause". Every First Lady is obligated to have and promote one or two such causes. Yes, Ellie...she helped coordinate bringing a weekly farmer's market to the city. A really great idea! There are many working people in the area who, I'm sure, appreciate the opportunity to shop fresh during their lunch or after work. Who doesn't like a farmer's market? There are other streets in the area and it is not unusual for streets to be closed for sporting and other events...in any town. Big deal!
Some of you are just entirely too caught up in your predetermined opposition to apply simple reasoning to a non-issue such as this. It is silly and embarrassing. Do you really have nothing better to do? Petty petty petty.
Go eat a salad or something! Get some exercise. You'll feel better....really. It must be really miserable living with such a critical and negative attitude. Geez!
Comparing weekday downtown DC to a small town is totally off the spot. I used to manage a service provider whose clientele base was primarily downtown. The economic impact of closing streets there is huge. In our case, we would incur late fees for missing delivery target times, have to reshedule missed deliveries to the following day, and rack up overtime for employees. Then there's the infamous DC parking ticket writers when you have to park elsewhere. I suspect in these lean times it's an even bigger hit for those firms struggling to stay in business. If you lived and worked here you'd have a better understanding and probably a different view.
dontbh8n: You make good points which is why DC did a traffic impact study BEFORE granting the Farmers Market a permit. The Farmers Market will be open every Thursday through the fall with the attendant street closures. Apparently this first one went off without any traffic problems.
I'm not sure anybody here has had to deal with DVs, it's not as cut and dry as most people expect it to be, and overkill should be the standard in guarding the first family.
I was in LtGen Sanchez's office in Iraq and security for him was always overkill. I know what you're going to say:
"But JP, this isn't Iraq, it's Washington DC"
This is the first family, and the other is a three star general. Which one do you think needs more protection?
Ultimately, this article is more a derision of the security needed for DVs than it is the DV themself. Does it seem elaborate? Yes. Is it necessary? Definitely.
Elitist at their finest...
Actually, the "elite" are organizing tea parties...like Dick Armey...
"Here's the catch," Moyers says after showing video clips with protesters decrying "the lies" coming from the Obama administration. "Something these marchers who came to Washington at Armey's urging could hardly be expected to know. For most of his adult life, their leader has benefited from just the kind of government tax-supported health care he's fighting to keep them from having too."
It's a fascinating run down of Armey's adult life working in universities and for the government, made comfortable and secure by state-funded health care -- "the Cadillac of coverage."
"Dick Armey is the epitome of those people with power and privilege who are insured against the vicissitudes of life and want no government assistance for any suffering except their own," Moyers says.
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